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Here is a reason why the NAPOLi trial was done comparing Nalirifox to Gemzar/Abraxane first and not to Folfirinox. The first goal of a clinical trial is to prove an investigational new drug or drug combo (IND) is more effective then a currently approved drug. If it is, it gets approval-if not, then it doesn’t unless it shows it is at least equivlent in effectiveness with less side effects and adverse reactions are of a lower grade than the drug or regimen it is compared against.

If Nalirifox was first compared to Folfirinox and found it was not better, then it wouldn’t receive approval. However, if it was proved first that Nalirifox outperformed G/A in a number of metrics and side effects and adverse events were better, it could be approved and patients could begin gaining benefit. Now the next step is in a comparison with Folfirinox to see if is better. Some of those questions might already be answered looking at the Waterfall plots and Meier-Kaplan data and other statistical metrics in comparing with G/A. Those same metrics already exist between Folfirinox and G/A and can be interpreted as to whether study is warranted now between Nalirifox and Folfirinox.

With respect to efficacy of Oxaliplatin and cis-platin, there were comparison studies done more than a decade ago comparing the two. Oxaliplatin was found to be more effective in providing more overall survival and progression free survival but does have more neurotoxicity. Between 30-35% of treatment cohorts respond to either Folfirinox or Gemzar/Abraxane. It could just as well have been that you did not respond to 5-FU and not the Oxaliplatin.

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I totally agree on the impossibility of attributing my response (or lack of) to the individual drugs in FFX vs GAC when I've only taken both as the whole cocktail. I've tried (not too hard) to arrange for sensitivity testing but run into more roadblocks than I have time to deal with presently. I will resume that process closer to my next tissue sample.

As a well-controlled experiment, we could (hypothetically) replace the Cisplatin in my GAC with Oxaliplatin, but that's never going to happen because of the increased neuropathy. On the other hand, I should be able to try "FolfiriCis" as a "less toxic" version of Folfirinox, but it doesn't appear to offer much return for the investment in my journey.

I appreciate that we consider side effect profiles as well as disease response in the drug approvals. Oxaliplatin vs Cisplatin vs Carboplatin is a classic example trading off one for the other.

As for the Nalirifox, comparing against G+A still strikes me as time wasted just to get in the door by setting the bar low. We now have 10+ years of data comparing FFX vs GA. My (very undereducated) opinion is that a head-to-head comparison of Nalirifox vs Folfirinox could have already reached conclusions by now about the effectiveness vs side effect tradeoffs of the two (better/same/worse for each criteria), providing doctors that data now rather than a couple years in the future.

Without the head-to-head comparison (and approval without it), how would a doctor decide whether to treat a newly diagnosed patient with one vs the other?