I haven't consulted with anyone on that. I was diagnosed as stage 4 because the surgeon who did the staging laparoscopy saw flat lesions in my abdomen. He had already rejected surgery because of the blood vessel involvement, but the lesions put the icing on the cake. As a result, surgery and radiation are out for me; the cancer is too widespread. Fortunately, so far I'm responding well to chemo, so hopefully that'll hold things off for a good long while.