Lyumjev vs. Humalog
Thinking of switching from Humalog pen to Lyumjev pen for my mealtime insulin, because of the supposed faster onset and exit.
Any thoughts on this, or experience with either of these?
Type 2 for 25 years.
Diet and Exercise first 11 years
Metformin ER and Glipizide added second 11 years
Lantus Solostar pen and Humalog Kwikpen last 2 years
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@celia16 that was interesting that you had better results using your arms for sensor placement with your CGM. I have tried that a few times and didn’t notice any difference good or bad.
When you upgrade to a new pump where will you place that? I have fallen into a pattern of placing the CGM sensor on my upper abdomen, above my waistline.It is the smaller of the 2 devices and is changed less often (every 10 days). I place the pump pod on my lower abdomen below the waistline (on the same side as the CGM). It is larger and is changed every 3 days. I have more body real estate in the lower abdomen so there’s room to rotate &/or move it a few inches every 3 days. The 2 devices need to be at least 3 inches apart and within “line of sight”.
I am curious about what you mean by micro boluses. I have a preset basal bolus that delivers a small predetermined bolus 24/7. My provider and I review and adjust this as needed (usually quarters). I add mealtime and correction boluses as needed. For example I have a preprogrammed insulin : carbohydrate ratio for meals. I calculate the carbs to be consumed and enter it into the pump controller. It does its algorithm thing based on insulin on board and communications with the CGM then suggests a bolus. I then accept, confirm and start the bolus. So far so good.
i used to use Lyumjev for a while. but for myself, i could never keep my BG regulated properly. so i went back to Humalog Kwikpen. i've been also using Toujeo. it was doing good for a while. but my Endo added Ozempic every week. finally got my A1C down to 7. before that it was up to 12. i'm very happy with the results. so i'm heading in the right direction.
@cehunt57 ,
It’s my understanding that most pumps deliver a constant basal insulin. Most use fast acting like Novolog. The amount of the basal in Manual mode on my Medtronic 670 is preset by the user and their doctor, based on their particular needs. In Auto mode, which I prefer, there is no preset amount of basal. The pump, calculates how much basal I should be getting to keep me in a good range…70-120. It’ll back off the basal, if I start going low. I manually insert my carbs in order to bolus before meals and snacks.
The difference with 780 in auto or Smart Guard mode is that not only does it provide the basal you need without using a pre-programmed amount, but it gives you micro boluses in order to cover your carbs, say if you forget to bolus or you underestimate the carbs. I’ve read awesome results from users. I hope I can do nearly as well.
I didn’t realize Dexcom had independent micro boluses. If it’s working for you that’s great. Everyone responds to treatments in different ways.
I’ll wear my cgm on my arms, because my cgm works better there and I’ll need my torso for my infusions. My infusions don’t work well on my lower stomach. I think I gave too many injections there when I was MDI. I get poor absorption there now. ☹️ I regret not varying my injection locations more for all those years. I now have used my back and sides for infusion locations. I rotate pretty well now I think.
@danny5 ,
That is a huge improvement. I’m working hard to reduce mine too. My BG is all over the place without a pump and cgm.
I have a friend who is type II, that did very well on Ozempic. She said it was like a miracle. Please post your thoughts on it. I can’t take it since I’m type I, though I know some Type I’s who take Wegovy.
Ozempic and Wegovy are basically the same thing. being Type 1 i have no idea if Wegovy would be covered either. just so you know i have the Dexcom G7 also. a CGM.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience, Danny, and congratulations on the big improvement in your A1c!
Maybe I should start the Lyumjev before I run out of the Humalog, so I can have the Humalog as a backup…..
I will go ahead and request a Lyumjev prescription from my doctor, so I can ”try” it. My A1c is currently at 7.5, but I would like to get it a little lower, And I think I could do that if the timing of my Humalog mealtime insulin (around 12 units) were not so “off”. Pretty sure I start it too late, and it works for too long — and beyond the point where it’s really needed. I take around 30 units of Lantus (Glargine) morning and night, too. How do you use the Toujeo?
7.5 A1C is really good. i'm back down to 110 units of Toujeo now. i'm gonna wait for awhile before i reduce it. i'll wait to see if my numbers run steady before i reduce it again. i always inform my Endo when I make changes. she has no problem with me doing that. as long as i keep her in the loop.
@celia16 the Omnipod 5 insulin pump basal is a preprogrammed constant that my provider and I review / adjust quarterly.
The pump communicates with the Dexcom G6 CGM to recommend a mealtime (based on insulin: carb) or a correction bolus. The Dexcom doesn’t have “independent micro boluses”. It just keeps the pump informed as to where it thinks I’m at in terms of blood sugar. The pump is in charge of the heavy lifting so to speak.
I did receive an email from Dexcom claiming that they are developing a “bionic pancreas”. I think it is a sensational way of promoting the Dexcom G7. I barely paid any attention to it.
Last but not least the pump uses Humalog. There was some concern about what insulin was covered by Medicare in the future but my provider came up with a work around on the script the last time I refilled my insulin. It is all good for now.