@josef3, good morning. No, I don't have pain, just this balance iffiness and a weird way of walking (thanks to the iffiness). I remember a few years back when I'd be meeting some new doctor or clinician for the first time and telling him or her that I had no pain. They'd give me the most curious look like I MUST have pain, at least SOME. But no, I'd have to insist, NO pain. Have I gotten any help? Well, yes, but not "help" in the form of a cure (I accept that there is none); but various management techniques (like checking to be sure my B vitamins are up to snuff) so as to slow or prevent any worsening of my symptoms (balance and gait). I'm a great believer in being an advocate for your own health. As I read somewhere recently, of folks with chronic conditions, 20% simply give up and fall into despair; 60% let their doctors do all the prescribing, never asking them how, why, or what for; and the remaining 20% are advocates, always asking how, why, and what for, studying up on their condition, and getting as much exercise as their condition will allow (staying in motion). I wish you all the best! Stay in touch. Keep posting. –Ray (@ray666)