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Thu, Feb 20 10:30am · Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse? in Mental Health

H everyone!

I do know that Georgia Board of Nursing is now as of November 2019; has added to the testing of impaired nurses, and it doesn't matter if they don't have an alcohol problem or not. They are now handing down PEth testing for 2 years, along with hair follicle tests which are quarterly and urine drug screens too. Now with that being said, the peer assistance program makes us take 24 urine screens a year. Including the monthly PEth tests. So I am not sure if they don't trust the PEth tests or if they just want us so poor .
PEth tests are $130 to $176
Hair $85- 150
Urine $42.50- $ 58.50.
Weekly meetings $25-30
Monthly lab fees. $50.
So roughly it's $400 a month, none of which can be billed against insurance.
I am passionate about this. I had false positives and then they were adding more tests and another psych exam which was more money.
It is a soapbox of mine

Thu, Feb 20 9:57am · Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse? in Mental Health

Possibly leaky gut. Bacteria overgrowth

Thu, Feb 20 9:55am · Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse? in Mental Health

I wouldn't do another finger stick PEth test unless I had a venous draw done On the same day. I did that before. I went thru request a test who used labcorp.
If you have to have the finger stick tset, make sure all steps are followed. Inspect the packaging of the test. Make sure they don't use alcohol wipes and that if they use hand sanitizer before putting gloves on, that their hands are dry

Sun, Feb 16 9:24pm · Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse? in Mental Health

I believe something is wrong with the finger stick test, a 20 step procedure to obtain the sample.
Also I was diagnosed with bacterial overgrowth. Leaky gut. Methane breath test confirmed it. That can also effect the resuls. My hair follicle tests were Negative, my mail tests negative, my venous draws were also negative.
I am an RN who sought help, no problems with work, no DUIs, . The nursing board handed down a years worth of testing. I had 3 " positive " tests. My treatment center uses a local owned lab . I wonder about this " middle man lab". Back in May of 2019, another " middle man lab", in or around Dothan, Alabama was found guilty of changing drug test results. They had a contract with the state of Alabama or maybe that county's DHS. When there were positive tests, well more drug tests, ( more money in their pockets) occurred. These tampered results cost more than money, it cost families. Children were removed from their home. I am cash poor so to speak. My word against theirs. I don't have the money to go after that middle man lab. I have had no problems with Lab Corp or Affinity Labs.

Apr 17, 2019 · Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse? in Mental Health

No. I didn't. I do know that the finger stick test has 19 steps. Errors occurred during collection of the sample.
I do actually wonder if I need to be on maintenance antibiotics for small bowel bacterial overgrowth. I was diagnosed with it in November. I was on Xifaxan for 3 weeks.
I am interested in the possibility of autoimmune. What do you know about it?
I personally think, it's a scam to order more tests, to get more money.
I haven't had a positive venous draw. I have done 6 of those along with the finger stick. The positive finger sticks didn't occur with the venous draws though.
It's been a very frustrating year.

Feb 23, 2019 · Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse? in Mental Health

Any Lab Tests is the collector. The specimen does go to the USDTL via FedEx.
I have inspected the kit to if it's been tampered with, I haven't seen an expiration date; I have wondered about that. They pull the kit out from behind a counter, I have never seen the box.
It has been a long year. This was my last one.
It has been the same collector every time. Every time there is positive test , I have done 2 hair follicle tests, both were negative. Then my treatment center said after the 2nd positive tests said now we are going to make you do the nail tests. The 27th with be my 3rd nail tests. The last 2 were negative.
I am sober. I am wondering and am honestly fearful that they will do something to my nails.
I am seriously thinking about either doing a PEth test with Lab Corp on the same day as the nail. As a just in case they do something.
I won't be surprised if when I do my daily call on the 27th, that I will have to do a urine test as well. They made me do that in January.
I haven't done a urine in the month of February yet.
So now it turn to diluted urine tests. Those are $84. They gotta recoup losing that monthly PEth test. I am serious. I have started "holding it" giving them my first morning urine now.
I do not trust any of the lab companies.

Feb 23, 2019 · Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse? in Mental Health

Ok. I am really fed up. I am just going to put out here my history. I am an RN. I am alcoholic. No trouble with my nursing license, nor my driver's license.
I went to an outpatient treatment center. I self reported to the board of Ga. Nursing.
I now have a consent order. In this consent order, due the diagnosis of severe alcoholic, (treatment center got $45000 for that code) the board of Nursing ordered me to do monthly PEth testing for 1 year. I was ordered to do FINGER STICK testing. Who knows why.
I have had 4 false positive tests. The last two were January 15 and February 13.
On January 29th I did a nail test came back Negative and a urine test came back Negative.
The treatment center is again wanting me to do another nail test on February 27.. $177 to $181.
After the 2nd positive PEth test in July 2018, I had been doing duplicating with Lab Corp but in December, my money was just too tight. I stopped. Any Lab Tests charges $176; Lab Corp $139.
I know it's about the money. The handling lab: Choice Labs makes money every time I test, Any Lab charges $32 for collecting.
There are other nurses in my treatment center aftercare group who have been ordered to do this test. They are terrified. Can't blame them. They don't have to have FINGER STICK testing. I am puzzled by that too. I told them to insist on not going to the lab location that I was assigned.
I believe the cause of my false positive tests lie with the lab location, the technician ( been the same one all 12 tests).
I am exhausted, frustrated and angry over this "infallible test".
The money I have thrown out to this.
The treatment center would not send a letter to the board of nursing to suggest to drop this test. It's a money maker.

Feb 20, 2019 · Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse? in Mental Health

I am in Atlanta, Ga. I have had 3 false positive tests. I have had to do hair follicle and nail tests to prove that I haven't had any alcohol consumption.
In 2 of the 3 times, I had just finished working 4 days in a row. At my job site, we use hand sanitizer ALL the time.
The last result was 30ng/ml. I had used Orange essential oil on my wrists.
This test is not accurate. It's sensitivity is ridiculous.
I frankly detest the USDTL. I hate the finger stick test.