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Thu, Feb 14 1:43pm · Other causes of failed PEth test for alchohol abuse? in Mental Health

I just sense things are getting to a “critical mass” level….such that a young, hungry attorney will be willing to jump on this nonsense. I am looking around for one as we speak. This case could be career-making.

Thu, Feb 14 11:57am · Other causes of failed PEth test for alchohol abuse? in Mental Health

Hey is Mayo sponsoring this thread because it’s considering getting involved in this train wreck? We sure could use some help!

Thu, Feb 14 11:49am · Other causes of failed PEth test for alchohol abuse? in Mental Health

I doubt such information even exists. You’d need a large study (such as you would get in a standard FDA approval process) to work all those things out. The most PEth has a compelling biochemical theory/model….problem is there have been many, many compelling biochemical models in the past (e.g., lung cancer has been easily curable in rats for decades), but the models rarely work in reality the way they’re expected to work in theory. That’s why large, INDEPENDENT studies are necessary. The use of this test without such studies is unethical on its face.

Thu, Feb 14 11:20am · Other causes of failed PEth test for alchohol abuse? in Mental Health

Completely agree. You are a textbook case of the unreliability of this test. Its use and application without more extensive, INDEPENDENT testing is at best unethical.

My prayer is that some government agency somewhere somehow will address this issue.

Thu, Feb 14 10:21am · Other causes of failed PEth test for alchohol abuse? in Mental Health

I have MS. The enzyme that makes PEth (called PLD) is hyperactive as part of the MS disease process. Maybe your PLD enzyme is hyperactive too?

Thu, Feb 14 8:51am · Other causes of failed PEth test for alchohol abuse? in Mental Health

Google PEth and “DNA Legal”….that should take you to a brochure containing the manufacturers’ guidelines for interpreting results. Guidelines unquestioningly followed by the third-party administrators and fourth-party interpreters.

Thu, Feb 14 8:49am · Other causes of failed PEth test for alchohol abuse? in Mental Health

The 100-500 levels you’re quoting refer to the urine EtG test not the blood-based PEth test.

The 20 ng/mL cutoff is completely arbitrary. In Europe the cutoff is 35 ng/mL. Since the test purportedly can measure down to 0.0 ng/mL, spotting people that 20 ng/mL is the FOR-PROFIT manufacturers’ mendacious way of admitting that they really don’t know everything about PEth or how (and the conditions by which) it’s formed.

Wed, Feb 13 2:04pm · Other causes of failed PEth test for alchohol abuse? in Mental Health

The manufacturer itself says that a level of 100 nag/mL represents two binge sessions per day for 30 days. How is that even possible???