I've been participating in these Chats on pain and other issues for a couple of years and something important occurs to me. Especially when you're dealing with pain combined with depression and anxiety it is going to be almost impossible to know if a new product is having a positive effect a negative effect or no effect at all. Pain depression and anxiety all come and go with their frequency and their intensity. I can tell you this, anxiety and depression will greatly increase the intensity with which you experience pain, probably a lot more than any single thing you add to your regiment like CBD or lidocaine or other topical medications. I know this kind of sucks because it makes it really hard to decide what to do. What I have found that works is the number one deal with my depression, I use antidepressants and talk therapy and last but not least bibliotherapy. Read the book Feeling Good, read The Four Agreements. Evaluating the effects of other drugs or supplements to deal with pain before you have adequately dealt with your depression and your anxiety is a Fool's errand. I don't know much about CBD and I'm hoping to learn more. I do know from years of smoking pot that it doesn't make your pain Less in fact it may intensify your pain and it does not make your anxiety less and in fact in almost everyone who smokes it especially if they don't smoke it everyday and they're used to it it increases one's paranoia and anxiety. This is nothing new, we've known this since our generation started smoking pot in the 60s. It would appear from what I'm reading that non THC forms of cannabis do have a positive effect on pain. Fortunately if you listen to Science Friday on NPR you may have heard about a group of people who are synthesizing THC from sugar I have accomplished this by genetically altering yeast to do the work for them. There are a number of components in cannabis which occur in such small quantities that no one really knows what they do and they may turn out to be very beneficial and this group is working on synthesizing THC and THC 9 containing cannabinoids that will focus on these lesser-known aspects of cannabinoids. CBD is being pushed heavily by everyone who doesn't want to give you narcotics. Remember this. America's problem with addiction it's not primarily centered on doctor prescribed opioids it is centered on methamphetamine and heroin from Mexico. Your government could control these with further efforts and further pressure on the countries that manufacture the sudafedrin to allow the Mexicans to make all the meth that they bring into America. A wall will not stop these drugs they are not carried in on mules they are transported by any number of means. They are not hand carried across the border, no immigrants are bringing pallets with for 55 gallon drums of pseudoephedrine into California as the ones that were found their seven years ago which originated in the Ukraine. if you're old like me and you're going to be in pain for the rest of your life the only thing you can do that's really going to work for you is to find a good pain clinic with a good neurosurgeon who will implant a pain pump in your abdomen and run a catheter up your spine and deliver you three to four milligrams of Dilaudid or a similar drug per day which will eliminate about 50% of your pain. Those first three mg you get along with the two that you can give yourself will give you an effective dose of 700 mg to 800 mg of morphine every day. I've seized drugs did not pass through your stomach there are no side effects in terms of constipation. The liquid is mixed directly into your spinal fluid and goes directly onto the base of the nerves which run throughout your body. It will not make you Dopey it will not make you sick to your stomach it will not make you constipated. I'm 4 years into this program and I haven't thought about eating my shotgun since 2015 before I got my pump. Marijuana's a lot of fun and it feels great but it's not going to be the be-all and end-all for medicine. Modern medicine for all the bad rap it takes especially for my own generation is still pretty damn good stuff. it's saved my life when I had a rare sarcoma and it's made my life bearable after my spine is crushed and collapsed under wear and tear scoliosis osteoarthritis and any number of other conditions that have left me pretty much disabled. If you want to know more about pain pumps, do a search under wsh66. Good luck, love and blessings.