Spirituality, religion and getting through life's challenges

Posted by Roxie43 @roxie43, Mar 28, 2012

Research has been shown that folks suffering with physical and mental challenges who have faith in something more powerful than us can have positive outcomes versus those that do not.
In fact, some of the stories shared seem like miracles in the area around death and dying.
It is a given that we have many faiths to chose from but does your choice of faith provide you additional support when you need it? Do you believe in your religious or spiritual teachings?
How has religious or spiritual beliefs impacted your life?

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I was born into two wonderful sometimes chaotic and sometimes loving families. On my paternal side, religion was incorporated into a way of living. On my maternal side, there was a belief in god but religion was not incorporated into their way of life.
The result is that I believe in God, a power that can overpower all of us and I consider myself spiritual. I do not follow a specific religion even though paternal family is Christian and maternal family is Catholic.
As a grown woman who mostly has painful childhood memories the thought of needing to belong to a certain faith has not been a priority. In fact, in all honesty, there was a time when I resented the church. I know it’s a horrible thing to fathom unless you have walked in my shoes.
I still discuss my feelings about this topic in therapy because it’s hard to digest all the human suffering when we have a God, a protector against evil and illness.
Nonetheless, I attended church services from my early years until my teens, so I remember the foundation of what was preached about.
Interestingly, for me, I believe that if you are; kind, loving, helpful, giving, selfless, motivated to impact positive change in our world and simply care for my loved one’s as well as human beings and social issues that negatively impact humans that I will be blessed.
And, so, in many aspects I am blessed because I’m alive, I have a heart that is kind and I have this inner strength (challenged last year) to stand up to injustices in a world that has so many reckless and heartless beings. This too, I struggle with because what makes another human being become reckless and heartless?
In my opinion it all boils down to pain. Some people internalize pain and other’s externalize the pain by hurting other’s.
So, for me, what gets me through challenging times are an array of support systems and this is inclusive of believing in a higher power.
I’m hoping that one day, soon, all that I was taught, have learned throughout the year and have practiced in terms of being good to others ……will simply be appreciated and I will be acknowledged for my strength’s despite my challenges because no one is perfect.
Sincerely,
Rox

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Good Evening All, I am also new to this site. I must say that having faith is something I could never live without. It is something that has gotten me through the most awful times in my life such as my awful surgery, the death of my grandparents and young friends…lots of trauma. All of these things are bad, yes, but would be so much worse if I didn’t feel the love of God. It’s all about perception, and sometimes my faith is seriously tested and I get angry, but it passes and I remember this slogan: “If He brings you TO it He will bring you THROUGH it.”

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I love living life. I am happy. This is the name of a video on YouTube that all should see.
It’s truly amazing
The man’s website is

http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org

Rox

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@roxie43

I love living life. I am happy. This is the name of a video on YouTube that all should see.
It’s truly amazing
The man’s website is

http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org

Rox

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I saw a documentary on Nick’s story in Australia. A truley incredible man, a wonderful caring human being. Who has overcome more hurdles in his life unimaginable and taken each an ever challenge with a strenght that is amazing.Nick is an inspiration to us all, and we should all take a page out of his book as the saying goes. Take care Piglit

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@roxie43

I love living life. I am happy. This is the name of a video on YouTube that all should see.
It’s truly amazing
The man’s website is

http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org

Rox

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He’s an amazing person and I’m so glad that instead of giving up he has this amazing inner strength to give others hope. I was really impressed that he deleted the dis from disability and changed it to…ABILITY. A remarkable spirit!
Rox

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@roxie43

I love living life. I am happy. This is the name of a video on YouTube that all should see.
It’s truly amazing
The man’s website is

http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org

Rox

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He is an incredible human being, amazing strenght and a very remarkble spirit. He spends his life giving hope to everyone he comes in contact with. Amazing God Bless him always

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@roxie43

I love living life. I am happy. This is the name of a video on YouTube that all should see.
It’s truly amazing
The man’s website is

http://www.lifewithoutlimbs.org

Rox

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He is an incredible human being, amazing strenght and a very remarkble spirit. He spends his life giving hope to everyone he comes in contact with. Amazing God Bless him always

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I see your point Momentum. I think the message is that besides medications and talk therapy some may rely on their beliefs whatever they are to help them deal with certain illnesses.
I’ve heard stories of people living with terminal illnesses speak of the importance religion or spiritual beliefs during death and dying.
I too consider myself spiritual and in being kind hearted but these are my views. We have a Chaplin in our psychiatric hospital and many of the patient adore her.we have to be objective 😉
Rox

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I agree with you, Roxie. I have done home care working with hospice patients which I always felt fascinating when they died. In one case, I drew a sketch of a ‘person’ I saw that was standing in the corner of the room besides the dying lady’s bed. I showed it to the daughter and friend who were sitting in the kitchen and said “This is what I keep seeing” …the daughter was SHOCKED. (This was a devout Catholic family) She said, “OH my god, that is my mother’s favorite version of Mary…that is the Virgin of Guadalupe.”
THEN…I took care of this old gent who claimed NO kind of beliefs…He would often ‘see’ people at the foot of his bed…I’d be reading, sitting beside him. He would talk to them, and laugh and smile….then he’d go back to sleep. I wasn’t with him when he passed, but the other aide told me, ‘they were there’ when he passed. Religion or even ‘spirituality’ (which I subscribe to) are not necessary to transition to the other dimensions. Plus, I do not believe in ‘hell’ … except for that which we sometimes concoct for ourselves…sigh…:(
BUT…I have respect for whatever the beliefs are that help people through difficult times, and bless them to each their own way.
(Has anybody here read The Education of Oversoul Seven” books by Jane Roberts?)

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I agree with you, Roxie. I have done home care working with hospice patients which I always felt fascinating when they died. In one case, I drew a sketch of a ‘person’ I saw that was standing in the corner of the room besides the dying lady’s bed. I showed it to the daughter and friend who were sitting in the kitchen and said “This is what I keep seeing” …the daughter was SHOCKED. (This was a devout Catholic family) She said, “OH my god, that is my mother’s favorite version of Mary…that is the Virgin of Guadalupe.”
THEN…I took care of this old gent who claimed NO kind of beliefs…He would often ‘see’ people at the foot of his bed…I’d be reading, sitting beside him. He would talk to them, and laugh and smile….then he’d go back to sleep. I wasn’t with him when he passed, but the other aide told me, ‘they were there’ when he passed. Religion or even ‘spirituality’ (which I subscribe to) are not necessary to transition to the other dimensions. Plus, I do not believe in ‘hell’ … except for that which we sometimes concoct for ourselves…sigh…:(
BUT…I have respect for whatever the beliefs are that help people through difficult times, and bless them to each their own way.
(Has anybody here read The Education of Oversoul Seven” books by Jane Roberts?)

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Hi BettyAnn,
Your experiences are amazing. Were you ever afraid? My eldest daughter worked with geriatrics for 8 years and recently transferred to the ER dept. While working in the geriatric floor she had to unfortunately prepare those who passed away for the family and made the families had all they needed. I’m so proud of her. I’m proud of you too because the work you did was and is so important. My daughters first year on the job was tough on her and every time someone passed away she would cry.
She’s more mature now and bed transferring she was still caring but she realized that many of the people that passed away were almost 100 years old and had lived meaningful lives.
As for religion, I’m more spiritual myself and believe that all one has to do in life is be a good person no matter what.
I recall childhood stories of going to hell if I was bad. Simply horrible. Nonetheless, I fully respect everyone’s right to their belief system as long as my views are respected as well.
I find solace in spirituality and others find solace in specific religious beliefs and I’m not offended by others views/beliefs. Regardless of how we may feel we should always respect others and if believing in something makes someone’s suffering less I’m all for it.
so BettyAnn how are you? How are you feeling?
🙂 Rox

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I agree with you, Roxie. I have done home care working with hospice patients which I always felt fascinating when they died. In one case, I drew a sketch of a ‘person’ I saw that was standing in the corner of the room besides the dying lady’s bed. I showed it to the daughter and friend who were sitting in the kitchen and said “This is what I keep seeing” …the daughter was SHOCKED. (This was a devout Catholic family) She said, “OH my god, that is my mother’s favorite version of Mary…that is the Virgin of Guadalupe.”
THEN…I took care of this old gent who claimed NO kind of beliefs…He would often ‘see’ people at the foot of his bed…I’d be reading, sitting beside him. He would talk to them, and laugh and smile….then he’d go back to sleep. I wasn’t with him when he passed, but the other aide told me, ‘they were there’ when he passed. Religion or even ‘spirituality’ (which I subscribe to) are not necessary to transition to the other dimensions. Plus, I do not believe in ‘hell’ … except for that which we sometimes concoct for ourselves…sigh…:(
BUT…I have respect for whatever the beliefs are that help people through difficult times, and bless them to each their own way.
(Has anybody here read The Education of Oversoul Seven” books by Jane Roberts?)

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Hi I too have e xperienced visions as well with people that I have cared for. It is quite amazing really and moving to be present as you would know this well Bettyann. One of my clients daughters passed away with cancer. In her final moments she spoke and said that she could see her aunt and not to worry everything would be okay. In my own family when my Nannie passed away my mum;s mum. Dad was home with me, Mum at the hospital. Nannie spoke to dad as she passed at 3.15 in the morning and said that he know had to take care of me and Mum as she know longer would be here. He had a brandy at that time and stated to mum when she came home what had occured. Even wierder if you could call it that. I was born at 3.15 in the morning 5years earlier. I also after my dad passed which is twenty two years ago. Saw him three times at the family home. Can still feel him with me everyday. There is a lot to be said for the spirtual aspects of things. We do have to respect each others different beleifs. In my case as you know i am both spirtual and have a strong faith. I too Bettyann don’t beielve in hell, I think in someway or another a cleansing of souls occurs, Who knows we have yet to understand this. Take care Piglit Haven;t read the book but will try to get it

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Spirituality quality definitely relates to religious choices. For example, if you’re in the wrong setting to sincerely worship God, or you feel a sense of being disconnected from a meaningful connection with God, you must keep searching for the RIGHT place. The right church is one option for reaching up to God’s hand. There are other options, but a fellowship of people with common beliefs seems to reinforce a stronger and more disciplined commitment.

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I agree with you, Roxie. I have done home care working with hospice patients which I always felt fascinating when they died. In one case, I drew a sketch of a ‘person’ I saw that was standing in the corner of the room besides the dying lady’s bed. I showed it to the daughter and friend who were sitting in the kitchen and said “This is what I keep seeing” …the daughter was SHOCKED. (This was a devout Catholic family) She said, “OH my god, that is my mother’s favorite version of Mary…that is the Virgin of Guadalupe.”
THEN…I took care of this old gent who claimed NO kind of beliefs…He would often ‘see’ people at the foot of his bed…I’d be reading, sitting beside him. He would talk to them, and laugh and smile….then he’d go back to sleep. I wasn’t with him when he passed, but the other aide told me, ‘they were there’ when he passed. Religion or even ‘spirituality’ (which I subscribe to) are not necessary to transition to the other dimensions. Plus, I do not believe in ‘hell’ … except for that which we sometimes concoct for ourselves…sigh…:(
BUT…I have respect for whatever the beliefs are that help people through difficult times, and bless them to each their own way.
(Has anybody here read The Education of Oversoul Seven” books by Jane Roberts?)

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Today was a great day… Yesterday was mostly a day from Hello. Ay yi yi…however, I woke up to the fact that I had to depart from two other forum sites…instead of being positive and encouraging, I found them DIScouraging…and also felt myself being sucked into their problems…and mistakenly was thinking I could help ‘solve’ them… but then I saw yesterday how I paid for allowing this. Not THEIR fault…I think the Mayo Clinic’s forums are some of the best..and more relaxed…(But I have hardly visited all of them! 🙂
Working with the dying didn’t ever scare me mainly because of my beliefs that I knew they were “OK”…I admire your daughter for her work…THAT is a tough job. So many pediatric nurses become alcoholics… that is so sad. And yet we have to remember that children’s souls are as ‘old’ and wise as old people’s… they have chosen to only live for so long and experience what they experienced. It’s feeling for the families that really breaks your heart.

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@bettyann

I agree with you, Roxie. I have done home care working with hospice patients which I always felt fascinating when they died. In one case, I drew a sketch of a ‘person’ I saw that was standing in the corner of the room besides the dying lady’s bed. I showed it to the daughter and friend who were sitting in the kitchen and said “This is what I keep seeing” …the daughter was SHOCKED. (This was a devout Catholic family) She said, “OH my god, that is my mother’s favorite version of Mary…that is the Virgin of Guadalupe.”
THEN…I took care of this old gent who claimed NO kind of beliefs…He would often ‘see’ people at the foot of his bed…I’d be reading, sitting beside him. He would talk to them, and laugh and smile….then he’d go back to sleep. I wasn’t with him when he passed, but the other aide told me, ‘they were there’ when he passed. Religion or even ‘spirituality’ (which I subscribe to) are not necessary to transition to the other dimensions. Plus, I do not believe in ‘hell’ … except for that which we sometimes concoct for ourselves…sigh…:(
BUT…I have respect for whatever the beliefs are that help people through difficult times, and bless them to each their own way.
(Has anybody here read The Education of Oversoul Seven” books by Jane Roberts?)

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Hi so glad youv’e had a great positve filled day. I too never felt scared at what I experienced.I know the feeling too about families and it does break your heart doesn’t it. I have cried so many times on the inside dealing with family situations in my work that I have lost count. Take care

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I agree with you, Roxie. I have done home care working with hospice patients which I always felt fascinating when they died. In one case, I drew a sketch of a ‘person’ I saw that was standing in the corner of the room besides the dying lady’s bed. I showed it to the daughter and friend who were sitting in the kitchen and said “This is what I keep seeing” …the daughter was SHOCKED. (This was a devout Catholic family) She said, “OH my god, that is my mother’s favorite version of Mary…that is the Virgin of Guadalupe.”
THEN…I took care of this old gent who claimed NO kind of beliefs…He would often ‘see’ people at the foot of his bed…I’d be reading, sitting beside him. He would talk to them, and laugh and smile….then he’d go back to sleep. I wasn’t with him when he passed, but the other aide told me, ‘they were there’ when he passed. Religion or even ‘spirituality’ (which I subscribe to) are not necessary to transition to the other dimensions. Plus, I do not believe in ‘hell’ … except for that which we sometimes concoct for ourselves…sigh…:(
BUT…I have respect for whatever the beliefs are that help people through difficult times, and bless them to each their own way.
(Has anybody here read The Education of Oversoul Seven” books by Jane Roberts?)

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happy to hear that you had a great day. We have to try to enjoy this one life. It’s challenging sometimes but when we feel good about ourselves the struggle does not outweigh the good. The past few days were magnificent and as I sat on my porch I saw this beautiful red bird. I don’t think I could have appreciated nature and all it’s beauty when I first went on medical leave. The depression was so bad that I feared leaving my own bedroom for two months with the exception of attending to hygiene.
So, as I sat on my porch, I recalled those dark and scary days and cannot help but to have hope.
I’m proud of my daughter because she works hard, the graveyard shift and even though she’s 28 she has such compassion for the consumers that are under her care.
Have a blessed day!
Your friend Rox

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