Stem Cell Therapy for Arthritic Knees

Posted by tropicallady1276 @tropicallady1276, May 10, 2017

I am a 77 year old woman with arthritic knees where it’s difficult for me to walk and I’m trying to avoid knee replacement. I have done the Synvisc injections and physical therapy– to no avail. Is there anyone here who has had stem cell therapy for arthritic knees and I would like to know your outcome. I know there are two, one where bone marrow is removed and the other where they take fat from the abdomen and regenerate and inject into the knees. I would like to know the cost and how long the procedure takes and any other information which would be helpful to me. I live in North Jersey and am currently looking for clinics in my area who perform this procedure. I appreciate your help.

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@yellowbuffalo

I have osteoarthritis in both knees. I heard that stem cell injections are a substitute for knee replacement. I am interested in hearing from people who have had this treatment. Does it work? Is the cost covered by Medicare and Anthem supplement?

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Hi @yellowbuffalo and welcome to Connect. That must be so frustrating having osteoarthritis in both knees.

I wanted to share this journal article I found on stem cell injections in the knee for those with osteoarthritis: https://journals.lww.com/transplantjournal/Fulltext/2013/06270/Treatment_of_Knee_Osteoarthritis_With_Autologous.17.aspx

I also wanted to share this discussion on stem cell therapy for arthritic knees: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/stem-cell-therapy-for-arthritic-knees/

Also, this discussion on after knee replacement may be helpful, so you can see the struggles, and successes others have had after surgery: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/after-knee-replacement-surgery/

I's like to introduce you to fellow Connect members @cobweb, @johnbishop, and @danielad as they all either have had stem cells, or have researched them and may be able to share their knowledge.

Back to you @yellowbuffalo, is your doctor suggesting a knee replacement at this time?

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@ethanmcconkey

Hi @yellowbuffalo and welcome to Connect. That must be so frustrating having osteoarthritis in both knees.

I wanted to share this journal article I found on stem cell injections in the knee for those with osteoarthritis: https://journals.lww.com/transplantjournal/Fulltext/2013/06270/Treatment_of_Knee_Osteoarthritis_With_Autologous.17.aspx

I also wanted to share this discussion on stem cell therapy for arthritic knees: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/stem-cell-therapy-for-arthritic-knees/

Also, this discussion on after knee replacement may be helpful, so you can see the struggles, and successes others have had after surgery: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/after-knee-replacement-surgery/

I's like to introduce you to fellow Connect members @cobweb, @johnbishop, and @danielad as they all either have had stem cells, or have researched them and may be able to share their knowledge.

Back to you @yellowbuffalo, is your doctor suggesting a knee replacement at this time?

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Hello. My Dr. is suggesting complete replacement of both knee joints. I'm almost 81 and the prospect of prolonged therapy and disability is too much to consider at my age. Ergo, the stem cell therapy may be the ticket.

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@yellowbuffalo

I have osteoarthritis in both knees. I heard that stem cell injections are a substitute for knee replacement. I am interested in hearing from people who have had this treatment. Does it work? Is the cost covered by Medicare and Anthem supplement?

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Hi @yellowbuffalo, I would like to add my welcome to Connect along with @ethanmcconkey and other members. I tried to get into a clinical study for stem cell therapy for knee osteoarthritis but I was too old at 75 to meet the requirements for the study. I'm now 8 weeks post of a total knee replacement of my right knee. I would have loved to try the stem cell therapy but it is not covered by Medicare and I'm pretty sure my supplemental plan didn't cover it either. The did cover the knee replacement though. I've heard cost ranges of around $7,000 but I'm not really sure. If I had it done, I would want a major medical facility like the Mayo Clinic to do it. It looks like Anthem doesn't cover it either if you read their positional statement on in the coverage.

Mesenchymal Stem Cell Therapy for the Treatment of Joint and Ligament Disorders, Autoimmune, Inflammatory and Degenerative Diseases
https://www.anthem.com/medicalpolicies/policies/mp_pw_b094276.htm

Good luck with whatever you decide!

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@yellowbuffalo

I have osteoarthritis in both knees. I heard that stem cell injections are a substitute for knee replacement. I am interested in hearing from people who have had this treatment. Does it work? Is the cost covered by Medicare and Anthem supplement?

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@yellowbuf falo I can tell you one thing I know about older people and surgery I have been a O.R nurse in my past life haha and it's the young children and older seniors that recover the best and quickest That's why @johnbishop is doing so well

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@yellowbuffalo

I have osteoarthritis in both knees. I heard that stem cell injections are a substitute for knee replacement. I am interested in hearing from people who have had this treatment. Does it work? Is the cost covered by Medicare and Anthem supplement?

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I live in a suburb outside of Chicago and a couple of doctors are having seminars regarding stem cell therapy. One doctor insists that Medicare and insurances cover the treatments but we all know to date that that is not true. I have the problem in my right hip and my orthopedic surgeon suggested that I just tolerate the pain ! I had open heart surgery last year and the rheumatologist the surgeon wanted me to see added severe fibromyalgia to the Golden Years aches and pains :). The doctor suggested medical cannabis for the pain and I have found that regular CBD Oil over the counter helps much with the pain. Like you I am waiting for stem cell to be covered by insurance. But, one must understand that there is no guarantee that stem cell will work for everyone.
I have tolerated the pain from the hip for almost seven years and over the last few years I have tried steroid injections, but I don't think I will have anymore of them. One of my friends has bone on bone on both of her knees and she has tried the steroid injections and the last two times has tried the gel injections in both of the knees. The gel injections seems to help her more than the steroid. We must remember that we all heal and have different levels of pain. Every doctor suggests exercise but when one is in pain that is almost impossible. Whatever "road" you choose I hope you find relief.

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@gailb

@tebrown67

Welcome to Mayo Connect. I'm a Volunteer Mentor and not a medical professional so I don't provide diagnosis nor medical recommendations. I share my experience, knowledge and support with members.

If you page up to earlier posts on this thread you will see an extensive post (on page 12) from Justin McClanahan concerning how to contact the Mayo Regenerative Medicine group with their phone number. Good luck in your search for information about stem cells.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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Where can I get Prp in So Cal. I live in redondo Bch. Need for shoulder and energy.

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Gosa yes I got 5 shots in 5 joints.

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Has anyone tried stem cell therapy in lieu of TKR? What’s the success/failure rate? I am in my 70’s and too sedentary to go thru TKR and concerned about metal hypersensitivity. Looking for ways to avoid seirgery. My pain is quite manageable, half knee bone on bone; some scattered arthritis on other side plus under knee cap. Dr won’t perform partial for those reasons…

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@montykona2

Has anyone tried stem cell therapy in lieu of TKR? What’s the success/failure rate? I am in my 70’s and too sedentary to go thru TKR and concerned about metal hypersensitivity. Looking for ways to avoid seirgery. My pain is quite manageable, half knee bone on bone; some scattered arthritis on other side plus under knee cap. Dr won’t perform partial for those reasons…

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Hello @montykona2

Here is some information on how Mayo Clinic is using regenerative therapy in place of knee replacement, https://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-professionals/orthopedic-surgery/news/novel-stem-cell-therapy-for-repair-of-knee-cartilage/mac-20450891

@montykona2 Have you discussed this type of treatment with your doctor?

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@montykona2

Has anyone tried stem cell therapy in lieu of TKR? What’s the success/failure rate? I am in my 70’s and too sedentary to go thru TKR and concerned about metal hypersensitivity. Looking for ways to avoid seirgery. My pain is quite manageable, half knee bone on bone; some scattered arthritis on other side plus under knee cap. Dr won’t perform partial for those reasons…

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Hi Monty, I'd like to add my welcome. I moved your question to this existing discussion about stem therapy for knee regeneration. I did this so you can easily connect with fellow members like @winning @lynettegable @dixieorleans @mari @cobweb @danielad @scsm @anniebrook and others. I encourage to read through the past posts to learn from the experience of others along with the information the @hopeful33250 provided.

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