Results from vegan diet and HIIT workouts

Thanks for the update and you should not be disappointed - you did all that you could to improve your health and that is worthy of praise 🏆🥇 !!!

Just the fact that ALL of your other parameters had such a huge improvement is a testament to what diet and exercise can achieve. : ))) and also to your stamina and discipline - BRAVO !!!

My husband's BCR also was not prevented by diet BUT he is in super shape, no other health problems of any kind ( joint, eyes, glucose, BP, liver, kidneys , all great , etc etc.) and that helped him go through 2 PC treatments with almost zero side effects and recovering in record time 🧿. He is now on 2 ADT drugs and still full of energy, no weight gain, not even hot flashes.

And, what is even more important - it gives us both big peace of mind that we tried all that was suggested by our doctors and that we truly did our best 🥰 !!!

Wishing you best of luck going forward and thanks again for the update : )))

Although it did not affect the prostate cancer it probably reduced your probability of having heart problems with reduced BP, LDL, weight, etc.

Your regimen is like everything else - even surgery, radiation, ADT and AS: sometimes it doesn’t work.
Keep a close watch on that 3+4 because they’re not all the same and they can transform into higher grades.
Not trying to be a downer - and your overall physical results are impressive for sure! But changing your DNA with diet and exercise - no matter how strict or strenuous - is a pretty tall order. Best,
Phil

Thanks for the follow-up. I was curious how it would work out. Overall, the good news is it appears it helped your overall health. If it helps with your outlook and provides a positive incentive I don't see much of a downside - minus finding the right food, etc. That said, I am skeptical diet and exercise alone will significantly alter a PC trajectory.

I went on a similar diet as yours in December of 2023 following my RALP surgery for Gleason3/4. I went from 192 to 172 lbs (low end of green BMI chart) and blood pressure dropped as well down to your numbers.

I recently attended the Moores Cancer Center (San Diego) PC Summit Conference earlier this year. The doctor presenting on "diet and prostate cancer" said that the good news is that a "Vege' forward diet is clinically associated with a 50% reduction in the rise of PSA". She went on to say that unfortunately there is no correlation to curing PC with diet. Also vitamins have not been proven to be beneficial either in arresting or changing the course of PC.
I asked my UCI surgeon about diet recommendations following my RALP in Oct 2023. He is retired now from surgery, but is directing research at the UC Irvine university. He said that he follows a Mediterranean diet and a low carb protocol as there is "sketchy evidence" that a low carb diet may slow progression of the disease as PC cells have enlarged or (expressed) insulin receptors. They react to insulin which of course is triggered by carb intake which may be why there is an association of diabetic men being more susceptible to "high risk" PC.
You dietary changes have clearly had a positive health effect and may have even slowed your PSA progression however I agree with heavyphil that you may want to consider " plan B" as Gleason scores tend to progress and Decipher scores change with it.

@surftohealth88 Hi Surf! Happy to hear your husband is doing well on ADT. I am having the same experience. Mayo originally had me on for 4 months and I asked for some additional time so got three extra months. The one thing I did lose with my recurrence is my motivation on diet and exercise. Really took the wind out of my saisl. But hearing about your husband and the OP gives me more motivation. For those of us fortunate enough to not have ADT problems I do thinnk it is important to speak out as I see so many posts about scrambing to avoid it.

@heavyphil thanks for your reply Phil. I am going to do just that. I am still hopeful but keep a close eye on things.

@beachflyer thanks for your reply. I’m still trying for that kk d of results ask I’ll see what the next 6 months brings. I am staying hopeful but realistic as well.

I have no research to support, but I firmly believe my vegan diet helped with my health. I was on A.S. for 13 years before being upgraded to a 4+3, 1 lesion, all in the capsule.
I had SBRT in June and started ADT in May. No side effects from either. Who knows why, but I believe it is my diet.
I do occasionally drink wine or beer and when I go out to eat, which is infrequently, I eat and drink what I want.
I can't so still no effect until my first, 3mos PSA next week. I expect good news.
2 brothers with PCa (1 radiation/1 RP), so I consider myself 'at risk'
Once you get used to what you CAN eat, rather than what you can NOT eat, it becomes routine.

@service1010 thanks so much! That’s very encouraging. I am adjusting well to the diet and as I mentioned I may add fish to the diet. I’ll talk to my urologist and see if she things that might be beneficial. I appreciate your feedback!