Probiotics for MAC, MAI, MABS: Do you take them daily?
I knew that good Probiotics are needed if you take antibiotics. And most of us with MAC, MAI or MABS etc take the Big 3 or other antibiotics for a long, long time.
But I didn't realise how important Probiotics could be for preventing virus infections in us, like the Flu virus, viral Pneumonia….or even the Covid19 virus.
Research (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325651#Antibiotics-leave-mice-vulnerable-to-the-flu) has shown that:
…"80% of [those] with healthy gut bacteria survived the infection"….. But "of [those] who had previously received the antibiotic mix, only one-third [33%] survive" and recover from the viral infection….
That reduces the risks of viral infection by less than half !
The scientists doing this study also found 2 more important things:
* "gut bacteria drive interferon signaling, 'telling' the lung cells to react to the virus, stopping it from replicating, and making survival and recovery more likely"
* if the gut bacteria destroyed by antibiotics are replaced with good Probiotics, "this brought interferon signaling back to normal and reestablished [viral] resistance in the lungs"….
So all of us with NTMs who are on the Big 3 or other antibiotics should probably be taking good Probiotics every day. And probably continue this even after any negative sputum tests.
Have any of you been taking good Probiotics every day ? Even after any clear sputum tests ?
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Sorry for the question,but,how you make your own Kimchi ferment ?
The current batch is 2 heads green cabbage, 3 rather large chopped green onions with tops, red Bell Pepper cut to small pieces, perhaps a third of a cup.
Process cabbage to approx. consistency of Cole Slaw. Transfer to a large mixing bowl. Add 1-2 tbls. Course Sea salt (mine happened to be ALESSI brand. Morton’s Course Kosher works equally well.
Knead the mixture and be fascinated as, with a little help from you, chemical magic unfolds, soon yielding a soggy mass (not mess). Mix in a tablespoon of Paprika and a sprinkle or two of powdered Cayenne pepper (to taste), and some Caraway seeds. Let it rest for a few minutes then spoon into quart Mason jars, compressing the mixture as you go. I usually stuff a leftover cabbage leaf into the jar to top off the mixture but this isn’t crucial. Cap loosely and set aside out of direct sunlight. After a week I transfer to the fridge and soon begin to cheat by taking a smidgin’ a bit early, though I understand that it continues to be active, but at a slower pace I’d guess. Don
Thank you for the easy recipe! We are both big fans of the kimchi at our local Korean restaurant, and my husband's family always made huge crocks of sauerkraut, which we have no room to do. This sounds like a great option! Is it OK to set it on the shelf in a cupboard, or does it require some light?
Sue, You're probably getting something much closer to the "real McCoy" by patronizing a Korean place. I get the impression that Korea is sorta the original "hotbed" of Kimchi. And the "real thing" included shrimp and no tellin' what else. Does your local source include anything that was once animated?
I'm unaware if it requires light. It's not getting any at may place, definitely after I put it in the fridge.
Good eatin', (and good breathin') Don
I love this group! Sue (I want to grow up to be like you🧡) your mind, heart, and research keep us straight during this journey with MAC….thank you. Here are my 2 cents…
Have always believed in probiotics…even before they became branded and marketed (was a modern hippie of the 70s and worked in a health food store for pocket change). I do believe my overall health for 40 plus years as an adult taking probiotics proves the gut/health relationship (because I have some horrible family history and genes to ameliorate upon); in spite of this acquired villain MAC, and some undiagnosed “most likely “ connective tissue issue….I am really strong & healthy.
I found most my faith is guarded well by this UK producer…Optibac Probiotics. They stand by not all probiotics address everything equally. They…as our ID docs firmly warn us to treat the “specific kind” of invader MAC…the specific species/kind. Optibac also warns that the system/organ affected merits specific kinds of probiotics. Different strains for different symptoms, ailments, issues. They offer good science, support from nutritionists/scientists/ research/ trials. All can be found on the website. I even communicated with staff regarding the FedEx delivery…time…heat…transport ..etc. They responded to my email over night and reassured my doubts on safe delivery of products.
I presently take one type for digestive issue and another to address my immune system. Both help me stay at my optimum, I also consume plant based diet and fermented foods…not to mention my boiled water regimen (lots of water).
So, I am a firm supporter of probiotics; just caution all to always back up claims with the best available research, manufacturers, and testimonials.
Stay strong and well.
Thank you Regina – Be careful or I might get a swollen ego!
Thank you for your information about specific probiotics. I have access to a wide variety through our local coop, and choose different ones each time, as I also have lung, autoimmune and inflammatory issues, as well as an abysmal family history.
@thumperguy Don – I wasn't looking for authentic, just easy to do at home. Yes, their kimchi contains dried shrimp. I will omit is at home.
Thank you for your healthy recipe.I’m going to make it today.
My 88 year old mother has MAI. What probiotics would you recommend? She takes 2 of the antibiotics and aryicase replaced rifambin because she had horrible side effects.
My Son has dealt with GI distress and seems to get relief with “Jarrow” Jarro Dophilus Probiotic + Prebiotic
Thank you, I will look into it.