Lipo-Flavonoid for ringing in ears

Posted by peggyn @peggyn, Jun 28, 2019

Hello, I'm new hear, but am on some of the other groups. I have had this ringing in my ears for several weeks, sort of like crickets,.. Someone in one of the groups said they took lipo Flavonoid for this and It helped. them..I that time I didn't need it.., Has anyone here ever tried it and if so did it help.. What have you tried that helped.??

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Tinnitus in research studies right now comes from a number of different parts of your brain. It represents damage to your brain. You can not correct or cure this "phantom noise" with anything that is found on the market. The origin of your noise in the head likely comes from the limbic portion of your brain and can intensify when you think about it because this part of the brain controls your emotions and other subjective activities. Damaged hair cells in your cochlear/auditory nerve system are not able to connect correctly with the brain interpretation for sound and this becomes the noise in your ears or head. With you brain constantly working and your ears constantly hearing…there is NO off switch to both systems, so you can tell either of them to turn off the noise. Scientists are looking at the areas of damage to figure out how to turn off the spigot somewhere in the brain where the source is coming from. They have not been able to find where the various places are located since there are more than one locations.
In the mean time, we as tinnitus sufferers, must understand what precipitated our first encounter with it. How did it start. Hearing loss? Head injury? Ototoxic medications? Middle ear tumor? Infections? War injuries?
Next: Have we seen a Medical doctor/Audiologist/ENT about this medical condition? Have we identified all of the various symptoms that could or may be associated with this condition? [Vestibular – inner ear/brain location such as vertigo, dizziness, falls, hyperacusis, headaches, Menieres disease, and others]
Testing: Were any tests conducted regarding your hearing, brain, equilibrium? Besides your basic well being…
What recommendations were given you? OTC samples or magazine promos are NOT regulated or approved for tinnitus. Hearing aids with masking programs work, Sound devices that mask the noise also help, Biofeedback to train the brain to hear white, brown, pink or other color – toned noises allow the tinnitus wearer to listen to sounds that over ride their own screeches. There is a dedicated American Tinnitus website I recommend that you should start with: https://www.ata.org/understanding-facts and then check out the Institutes https://medlineplus.gov/tinnitus.html and https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/14164-tinnitus where Research is constantly taking place. https://hearinghealthfoundation.org/what-is-tinnitus
Check these all out and I am sure you will have ample information to help you. My tinnitus started in 1990s with ototoxic meds to save my life. I will have this until I die. I manage the two tones with my Starky AI Evolv hearing aids which does a marvelous job of masking them. Any questions – let me know Eloise

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I have sent this to tinnitus researchers with no indication of interest. Maybe those suffering will have to take it upon ​themselves to find a solution. Here's one starting point.

Dear researcher: Perhaps, you may be interested in following up on this lead or know of someone who may be. The fancy research may be fine for understanding tinnitus but there is no remedy now. I have found chocolate causes my tinnitus and suspect olives may also. If I were willing to allow my vitamin D level to go to zero, I might have cured my tinnitus with my present diet! I want no part of masking and distraction; I want to listen to it because most of the time it is not there.
I would like to know what other foods I should avoid but progress is slow. I am willing to share my experiences with anyone willing to pursue this approach. Perhaps it only relates to me but maybe it could affect anyone with mild ear inflammation. It's something to offer sufferers.
Below is an account I posted on Tinnitus Talk a while ago:

I have had tinnitus as long as I can remember and have adapted to it. It spans a loudness range with very few low periods. My doctor felt that my blood level of vitamin D was very low(22ng/ml) and prescribed a 50,000 IU capsule to be taken monthly. I took one at dinner and regretted it the following morning. My tinnitus was beyond my normal threshold. My fear was, could I learn to live with this louder level, if it was permanent. The fat-soluble vitamin D had built up in whatever tissue responsible for my tinnitus. A similar occurrence had happened once before in my life so I could only hope that in time my body would remove the excess vitamin D. And that is what happened, but it took almost a month.
After enjoying a few days of low tinnitus, I took a 60 IU vitamin D tablet and was back in the high range for about 5 days. I next exposed myself to about 20 minutes of late August sunlight, hoping the Vitamin D formed would stay in the fat under my skin. No such luck, another week of tinnitus cleansing. Must I choose between a healthy vitamin D blood level or tinnitus? If only there were a form of vitamin D that was water soluble and goes directly into the blood. Well, I found that there are two such forms: micro encapsulation and micellular. I am familiar with the latter technology so choose to experiment with that.
I purchased online, Biosetin Labs micellized aquas vitamin D3, 1200 IU per drop. A research paper using this form stated that 15% of the vitamin D goes into the fat tissue. I used one drop in about an ounce of water. In time, a pattern emerged. Taken at dinner, two days of tinnitus follow, then my tinnitus almost disappears. After 5 days, a blood test revealed my vitamin D level at 44ng/ml. (Healthy range: 30-100ng/ml). Not a bad deal: 2 days of tinnitus, 3 days tiny residual tinnitus in left ear only. This pattern does not occur every time. Sometimes the "no tinnitus" days do not show up. I attribute this to foods which may naturally contain vitamin D ( e.g. mushrooms), foods spiked with vitamin D ( e.g. almond milk ), or exposure to sunlight. It would be reasonable to expect some other fat-soluble organics to cause tinnitus. However, with my two experiences now, tinnitus has increased only with repeated ingestion, perhaps exceeding a threshold level value.
This is my personal account. I also have mild ankylosing- spondylosis ( AS) and migraines. I asked if others in a AS Facebook group had headaches and got only a few responses, due to fusing of neck vertebrae. When I asked if anyone had tinnitus, there were a large number of positive responses. Perhaps, there are others who react the same as me. Might someone whose tinnitus was brought on by loud noise have his inner ear or brain pathway inflamed so to lower his threshold to vitamin D or some other biochemical? I feel that this is a question worthy of an answer. Right now, there is nothing to offer to reduce tinnitus loudness. Might some possibly be helped by trying water soluble vitamin D?

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@colleenyoung

@rnickel, I appreciate your sharing your experience and agree with your hesitancy to believe "too good to be true" claims of unproven approaches.

The supplement Lipo-Flavonoid has been promoted to treat this health problem. Yet there is a lack of evidence showing that it helps, and some of its ingredients could be more harmful than helpful. See this article:
– Can Lipo-Flavonoid Stop the Ringing in My Ears? https://www.healthline.com/health/can-lipoflavonoid-stop-ringing-in-ears

Here is some information that Mayo offers on tinnitus- https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tinnitus/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20350162
Tinnitus does not have a cure yet, but treatments that help many people cope better with the condition are available. Treatment for tinnitus depends on whether your tinnitus is caused by an underlying health condition. If so, your doctor may be able to reduce your symptoms by treating the underlying cause.

Members like @mattie1014 @julieo4 @nurseheadakes and others offer helpful tips for managing tinnutis in this related discussion:
– Controlling Tinnitus: What works for you? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/tinnitus-control

@rnickel, what helps you be able to tolerate the tinnitus?

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Funny you should ask. See below.

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@nurseheadakes

Tinnitus in research studies right now comes from a number of different parts of your brain. It represents damage to your brain. You can not correct or cure this "phantom noise" with anything that is found on the market. The origin of your noise in the head likely comes from the limbic portion of your brain and can intensify when you think about it because this part of the brain controls your emotions and other subjective activities. Damaged hair cells in your cochlear/auditory nerve system are not able to connect correctly with the brain interpretation for sound and this becomes the noise in your ears or head. With you brain constantly working and your ears constantly hearing…there is NO off switch to both systems, so you can tell either of them to turn off the noise. Scientists are looking at the areas of damage to figure out how to turn off the spigot somewhere in the brain where the source is coming from. They have not been able to find where the various places are located since there are more than one locations.
In the mean time, we as tinnitus sufferers, must understand what precipitated our first encounter with it. How did it start. Hearing loss? Head injury? Ototoxic medications? Middle ear tumor? Infections? War injuries?
Next: Have we seen a Medical doctor/Audiologist/ENT about this medical condition? Have we identified all of the various symptoms that could or may be associated with this condition? [Vestibular – inner ear/brain location such as vertigo, dizziness, falls, hyperacusis, headaches, Menieres disease, and others]
Testing: Were any tests conducted regarding your hearing, brain, equilibrium? Besides your basic well being…
What recommendations were given you? OTC samples or magazine promos are NOT regulated or approved for tinnitus. Hearing aids with masking programs work, Sound devices that mask the noise also help, Biofeedback to train the brain to hear white, brown, pink or other color – toned noises allow the tinnitus wearer to listen to sounds that over ride their own screeches. There is a dedicated American Tinnitus website I recommend that you should start with: https://www.ata.org/understanding-facts and then check out the Institutes https://medlineplus.gov/tinnitus.html and https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/14164-tinnitus where Research is constantly taking place. https://hearinghealthfoundation.org/what-is-tinnitus
Check these all out and I am sure you will have ample information to help you. My tinnitus started in 1990s with ototoxic meds to save my life. I will have this until I die. I manage the two tones with my Starky AI Evolv hearing aids which does a marvelous job of masking them. Any questions – let me know Eloise

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Thank you for your concern and suggestions.

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