Want to discuss prolapse bladder or any kind of prolapse
I am looking to discuss prolapse bladder or any kind of prolapse that other ladies have experienced as well. I would also like to comment on incontinence as well. There is a lot to talk about when it comes to prolapse bladder etc and it seems to be a silent epidemic among women. If there are others out there like me, lets talk about it and I have some solutions. I am surviving prolapse bladder without surgery and I have been living with it for over ten years. I wear a support garment that is light and easy weight and fits right under my existing underwear. Don't know what you are doing or wearing, but I would like to hear from you. Thanks.
Tanglefoot
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I don't mean vagina - I have a prolapsed uterus
What do you mean by a support garment?
Thank you Colleen for your kind response. I have been busy and finally am able to connect up with the community. I especially like Tanglefoots’ altitude and advice. I now have several approaches that I’m going to try - the hideaway support garment , Vitamin E to moisturize the cystocle, and I have an appointment scheduled about a pessary.Thank heavens for Mayo Clinic Connect.
Hello Always Hopeful
It sounds like you have had a prolapse like me for many years now. I am the same stage as you a stage 3. At night when I go to bed it goes right back up, so that is good. As far as estrogen cream goes and a pessary. I cannot take estrogen cream because my mother had breast cancer from it. She took hormone replacement for 10 years straight and unfortunately developed breast cancer. She is breast cancer free now for the last 20 years so not estrogen for me. A pessary is not an option for me either. I cannot tolerate anything that doesn't belong up there as I am more of a natural remedy person. A pessary may be okay for those who can tolerate it but the odds are that at some point it will cause infections, rubbing, discharge etc. A friend of mine just had her pessary removed because of these problems. Again, it is personal choice to make and some people try it to see how it works and others like me are not interested in internal supports. I do find the Hideaway outside support for prolapse to be very comfortable and easy to wear. In the morning when I get up my prolapse is not protruding out until I start to walk around for a few minutes. So right after I get up and go to the bathroom I put on the Hideaway to prevent my prolapse from falling out of my vagina area. I am comfortable for the entire day and can do the activities I need to do, like walking, bending to do chores, bike riding, whatever I want to do.
The Hideaway prolapse support is there to allow me to live a normal life without worrying about it anymore. As I mentioned before I have no other pain or bathroom issues, so why would I put myself through painful surgery. I do my pelvic floor exercises and eat a good diet so I do not become constipated. Never become constipated as this is really bad for prolapse. Always try to eat well so you have easy bowel movements. Don't do any heavy lifting and try to curb a cough if you have one. These are all factors that make a prolapse worse.
The Vitamin E Capsuls work very well to moisturize the inside of the vagina area. As I said before, poke a hole in one end of the capsul and squeeze the gel out and apply up inside. Make sure you are not allergic to natural Vitamin E. Coconut oil is another internal moisturizer that works as well (use the organic coconut oil). Again, make sure you are not allergic.
You mention you have a uterus prolapse as well. The Hideaway works for any kind of prolapse to support it. I think you need to go to the web site and read the testimonials from women like me who are wearing it. They are the ladies that will tell you what type of prolapse they have and how the Hideaway is helping them. One thing to keep in mind is the lady that is on the web site who invented the Hideaway has a prolapse too. She will answer any questions about this for you. She is very helpful and she answered all my questions. She told me point blank that she is not just there to sell a Hideaway, she is wearing the Hideaway and she said she is there to answer questions if need be. So you don't have to buy a Hideaway to talk to her.
If you have anymore questions Always Hopeful, just email me on this site. I would be more then happy to answer them. I am surviving prolapse without surgery and I hope to keep doing that for the rest of my life. I am now 65 and its been over 8 years so I think I am doing well. Hope others can find what works for them as well. We all need to help each other when it comes to prolapse which is not an easy journey when your insides start to fall out. There are alternatives and we should all have those choices and not be pushed into something we do not want to do. Do your research as it is your body we are talking about. The uterus, the rectocele and the bladder are very important organs and we must be careful how we take care of them.
Tanglefoot
Tanglewood - thank you for the prompt reply. I'm going to visit the Hideaway site today. My pessary appointment isn't until March. Until then, I'll do research on the estrogen cream(no breast cancer in the family) and if the hideaway works, I will not go for the pessary. Lastly, will definitely use the Vitamin E. Once again, thank you for all of your information.
You are very welcome Always Hopeful for any help I can provide. Are you itchy or dry or uncomfortable and that is the reason you are thinking about estrogen? I was itchy and dry because of menopause but the natural Vitamin E Capsuls stopped that itchy and dryness. Also when you think of a support garment like the Hideaway, think of it this way. We wear a bra upstairs so why not give some real good support downstairs to prevent our insides from protruding out? Most ladies sometimes have no choice but to try a pessary if they have complications. For instance if they cannot go pee or bowel issues etc. Since I do not have any complications then why would I risk a complication by having something inserted inside that could cause me bleeding, chafing, infections etc. Check out the pros and cons of pressaries so you have a clear picture of the good and bad. It doesn't hurt to do your homework and decide what is best for you. Only you can decide for yourself what you are most comfortable with physically and mentally.
Tanglefoot
hello just wanting to stay in touch I went ahead and tried again the pessery my uro-gynie gave me 2 different sizes and showed me how to insert and remove (after many fittings in the office I had 1 week with a good result)...my problem is the pelvic floor muscle spasms if I sit to long it hurts if I stand to long it hurts I am using and having much success with p/t and @ home pelvic floor exercises and a tool called a crystal wand I am so uncomfortable....I can literally feel it falling makes me a little nauseas i will go to the web site for the hide away....i am just afraid to spend the money (haven't been able to work du2 pelvic pain) again diet is good and am able to have bowel movements that isn't the problem is there any one you know with pelvic floor muscle spasms?
Hello Pizon
I have only read about spasms once and was wondering if those spasms happen when you have to go to the bathroom or does it feel like a pulling feeling because of the prolapse falling and stretching down further into the vaginal area? Does it hurt for long or is it just a sporadic feeling you get? Does the pessary cause more pressure when you sit for longer periods then if you didn't have the pessary in?
Tanglefoot
thank you for the quick reply...the pain didn't start until I prolapsed again mine just fell what seemed like all at once with no warning and the pain was first attributed to the uti I had at that time but I ended up in the er with the pain and was told I had to much stool in my bowel but after citrate of mag. and 2 tablespoons of flax seed powder daily I have no problem with that... it is like a tooth ach mine stared in my left side middle of lower back and wrapped around the hip to what feels like where your ovary would be and it was kind of burning as well and it hurt all the time couldn't sleep....now with p/t and @ home exercises and the used of what is called a crystal wand that you insert and press until the pain goes away I am much better but still suffer with them it feels worse when the prolapse is out (if you will fallen) and when you lay down at night....I take valium from my uro-gyn at bedtime as needed since p/t I don't need as much but still use as needed ... when I have the pessary in it causes my muscles to tighten and spaz and yes if I use the pessary ( the smaller one ) when I sit I feel like I am sitting on it....I can say that since I have been doing the p/t and home exercises the larger pessary (that I had 1 week of success with) is to big so I think that is a good sign that the exercises are working also the pessary gave me a horrible infection as well as rubbing am not going to try that again...I just ordered the hide away I really do not want the surgery but if it doesn't help I may not have a choice as the pain is now only when the prolapse is out... but am very hopeful .... I am better and again want to thank you for your advice and help I hope other women that are suffering with the pain of the spasms can go to there gyn for help my p/tist says a lot of women suffer with this and are not being treated or diagnosed correctly and therefore not getting the proper treatment
Hi Pizon
It sounds like the PT is really helping a lot. I am glad to hear that. It sounds like the pessary may be something to do with more pressure by the way you describe what happens when you sit with it etc. I hope the Hideaway gives you the same relief it gives me. It stops my prolapse from falling out and it reduces some of the feeling of having a prolapse. I am very fortunate it works for me because I cannot wear a pessary and I wouldn't want to because I know it would bother me not only mentally but probably physically. Talk to you soon.
Tanglefoot