Anyone tried Dry Needling or Acupuncture for Pain or Neuropathy?

Posted by judypall @judypall, Mar 22, 2019

Has anyone had any luck with either dry needling or acupuncture? I have tried each of them one time. But made my feet tingle more. The PT who was administering the dry needling said that it goes through a cycle of pain to get better. I wasn’t too sure on that. Anyone?

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@teslachan

Hi Amanda, Thank you for the welcome! Dry needling was suggested to me by my primary care physician. She had other patients who had good success with relief from chronic neurologic pain using dry needling.
My understanding of why it works for me is that chronic nerve pain can cause us to tense up, causing muscles to spasm, which then release only part way leaving knots of tension. The dry needling targets those knots and causes them to loosen, which also can release muscle tension in other connected areas.

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Thank you, I have the same issues as my body compensates for the “pain in the neck”, it creates muscle tension in the shoulder/scapula.

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It was recommended to try by my pt. I have DDD in my neck and that's where they want to do. Had anybody tried it and did it help. My C5,6 and 7 have no cushion left.

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@cookiepic

It was recommended to try by my pt. I have DDD in my neck and that's where they want to do. Had anybody tried it and did it help. My C5,6 and 7 have no cushion left.

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Has anyone tried acupuncture for headaches or for anything? So far, it's not working for my headaches.

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@mikaylar

Has anyone tried acupuncture for headaches or for anything? So far, it's not working for my headaches.

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There's really no evidence that acupuncture works for much of anything. The studies that show positive outcomes are quite flawed.

What kind of headaches do you have?

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@cookiepic

It was recommended to try by my pt. I have DDD in my neck and that's where they want to do. Had anybody tried it and did it help. My C5,6 and 7 have no cushion left.

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Have you had other types of PT and a home exercise program?

Dry Needling Adds No Benefit to the Treatment of Neck Pain: A Sham-Controlled Randomized Clinical Trial With 1-Year Follow-up https://www.jospt.org/doi/10.2519/jospt.2021.9864

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@cookiepic

It was recommended to try by my pt. I have DDD in my neck and that's where they want to do. Had anybody tried it and did it help. My C5,6 and 7 have no cushion left.

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Cookiepic, my physical therapist has talked to me about dry needling. The way it works is it releases the electrical charge that is holding the muscles in a spasm knot. Since metal conducts electricity, it dissipates the charge when you stick a needle into the muscle. I don't like needles, so I didn't try it. The other thing that helps which I have done is a Dolphin Neurostimulator which is 2 handheld devices that send an electric current between them. I also am a spine surgery patient, and prior to my cervical fusion, my therapist was using the Dolphin to block pain signals at the nerve roots of my spine. That helped for about a week to reduce pain. Those give some temporary relief, but do not address the structural problem of the spine.

I had spinal cord compression because of a collapsed C5/C6 disc and bone spurs that were pressing into my spinal cord. I had a single level fusion at Mayo without hardware, and I stayed in a neck brace until the fusion process had begun. I had great results from my surgery and I'm doing well now at 5 years post op. The spine can start to fuse itself if the discs collapse completely which may become inoperable if that happens. A spine specialist would have to answer that question. Bone remodels because of pressure which is why bone spurs form and they can start to fuse the adjacent vertebrae and compress the spaces between vertebrae where the nerve roots exit.

Sometimes physical therapy is tried as a prerequisite to surgery. Are you considering a surgical procedure for your spinal disc issues? If you have questions, I can answer about my experience with spine surgery.

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@debkl

There's really no evidence that acupuncture works for much of anything. The studies that show positive outcomes are quite flawed.

What kind of headaches do you have?

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Have had a migraine/daily persistent headache for 28 months. Been treating at Jefferson Headache Center in Philly for years. Have tried everything. Trying acupuncture now which is not working.

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@cookiepic

It was recommended to try by my pt. I have DDD in my neck and that's where they want to do. Had anybody tried it and did it help. My C5,6 and 7 have no cushion left.

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I was misdiagnosed with migraine for more than 20 years. Finally was correctly diagnosed with cervicogenic headache. Triptans and other meds Rx'd for migraine never helped me. Do you feel the diagnosis of migraine is accurate?

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@jenniferhunter

Cookiepic, my physical therapist has talked to me about dry needling. The way it works is it releases the electrical charge that is holding the muscles in a spasm knot. Since metal conducts electricity, it dissipates the charge when you stick a needle into the muscle. I don't like needles, so I didn't try it. The other thing that helps which I have done is a Dolphin Neurostimulator which is 2 handheld devices that send an electric current between them. I also am a spine surgery patient, and prior to my cervical fusion, my therapist was using the Dolphin to block pain signals at the nerve roots of my spine. That helped for about a week to reduce pain. Those give some temporary relief, but do not address the structural problem of the spine.

I had spinal cord compression because of a collapsed C5/C6 disc and bone spurs that were pressing into my spinal cord. I had a single level fusion at Mayo without hardware, and I stayed in a neck brace until the fusion process had begun. I had great results from my surgery and I'm doing well now at 5 years post op. The spine can start to fuse itself if the discs collapse completely which may become inoperable if that happens. A spine specialist would have to answer that question. Bone remodels because of pressure which is why bone spurs form and they can start to fuse the adjacent vertebrae and compress the spaces between vertebrae where the nerve roots exit.

Sometimes physical therapy is tried as a prerequisite to surgery. Are you considering a surgical procedure for your spinal disc issues? If you have questions, I can answer about my experience with spine surgery.

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Right now the last resort would be surgery on my neck. And my orthopedic doctor said that would be my last resort. He feels if l went to a pt and also did steroid injections it should lesson the discomfort. I'm really not crazy about getting injection in my neck and reading alot about them they don't work or if they do for a short time. When my pt mentioned dry needling it sounded somewhat interesting. No steroids injected and it seems alot of people got relief.

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@debkl

I was misdiagnosed with migraine for more than 20 years. Finally was correctly diagnosed with cervicogenic headache. Triptans and other meds Rx'd for migraine never helped me. Do you feel the diagnosis of migraine is accurate?

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Can l ask you how you feel with cervicogenic headache. I'm asking because l am thinking this is what l get. I have DDD in my neck. When really bad l get the discomfort up the back of my head to the top. Sometimes it goes into my forehead.

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