Different Questions re CKD: Hair thinning, anemia and snacks

Posted by nscappa @nscappa, Jun 2 4:41pm

Hello,
I am wondering if any one with CKD-3 (or other stage) have noticed any hair thinning?? For the last year my hair has thinned so much that I can see my scalp if I look closely and it really scares me. Wondering if it could have anything to do with the kidneys. Also, I have a slight case of anemia. I was told by my nurse practitioner that this may be the result of the CKD-3. On a different note, what do you pick on at night? I do have low-salt popcorn and cucumbers (baby ones). I did just try frozen berries (the strawberries were wonderful for the sweetness that I crave). Any other suggestions? Thank you!
Nancy

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@nscappa Nancy, my hair is thinning also, but I think it is a side effect of the oral chemo I am on for multiple myeloma, not my Stage 5 kidney issue.

If you don't have fluid restrictions, try some flavored water. I use True Lemon or True Lime packets with cruched ice and water, for a refreshing break. I also do that first thing in the morning! https://www.amazon.com/True-Lemon-Bulk-Dispenser-Count/dp/B003YP3MUS/ref=sr_1_3
Ginger

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@gingerw

@nscappa Nancy, my hair is thinning also, but I think it is a side effect of the oral chemo I am on for multiple myeloma, not my Stage 5 kidney issue.

If you don't have fluid restrictions, try some flavored water. I use True Lemon or True Lime packets with cruched ice and water, for a refreshing break. I also do that first thing in the morning! https://www.amazon.com/True-Lemon-Bulk-Dispenser-Count/dp/B003YP3MUS/ref=sr_1_3
Ginger

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Thank you Ginger. Mine might be genetic since my sister's and my mother's hair did thin also. I just thought I would ask. I'm so sorry that you are going through such a rough time. Thanks for the dip also. Do take care.

Nancy

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A number of things can cause hair thinning but there’s one many woman, myself included, that never heard about it. If you are going into menopause, I unfortunately started at 40, I’m 78 now, your estrogen/estradiol levels begin to drop. It’s Mother Nature’s way of protecting our bodies but there’s a drawback. We do need a small amount of the hormone to keep things working. If our bodies lack enough, it has a backup plan, it produces a substitute. The name of it is DHT, short for Dehydrotestosterone. It’s a killer our bodies make, bet you didn’t know that huh! What does it kill, the roots to your hair. This in turn cuts off the supply of blood to the root, causing the hair to become brittle and snap off. This occurs to most woman and pretty soon you can see the scalp. At first it’s a few hairs, then more and more till it starts to collect in the drain of the shower/tub. My hair is so thin now, I can blow a puff of air and watch my hair blow in the breeze. Don’t panic tho ladies, science helped up by creating 2 drugs that blocks most of the effects of DHT but naturally they’re expensive. If you have a good prescription plan or rich enough, I recommend both drugs. One stops the DHT effect by 70% the other by 90%. It worked for me but I had to stop either strength because of a medical problem it affects to much and my hair now is baby thin. So if you’re one of the ladies that are suffering from to much thinning hair, talk to your pcp about getting one of the drug strengths.

About your nighttime snacking, that’s a big NO-NO, especially if you end up with heartburn or GERD at night.

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@becky1024

A number of things can cause hair thinning but there’s one many woman, myself included, that never heard about it. If you are going into menopause, I unfortunately started at 40, I’m 78 now, your estrogen/estradiol levels begin to drop. It’s Mother Nature’s way of protecting our bodies but there’s a drawback. We do need a small amount of the hormone to keep things working. If our bodies lack enough, it has a backup plan, it produces a substitute. The name of it is DHT, short for Dehydrotestosterone. It’s a killer our bodies make, bet you didn’t know that huh! What does it kill, the roots to your hair. This in turn cuts off the supply of blood to the root, causing the hair to become brittle and snap off. This occurs to most woman and pretty soon you can see the scalp. At first it’s a few hairs, then more and more till it starts to collect in the drain of the shower/tub. My hair is so thin now, I can blow a puff of air and watch my hair blow in the breeze. Don’t panic tho ladies, science helped up by creating 2 drugs that blocks most of the effects of DHT but naturally they’re expensive. If you have a good prescription plan or rich enough, I recommend both drugs. One stops the DHT effect by 70% the other by 90%. It worked for me but I had to stop either strength because of a medical problem it affects to much and my hair now is baby thin. So if you’re one of the ladies that are suffering from to much thinning hair, talk to your pcp about getting one of the drug strengths.

About your nighttime snacking, that’s a big NO-NO, especially if you end up with heartburn or GERD at night.

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Thank you very much Becky. My hair doesn't fall out and I don't see it in the drain. It has progressively gotten thinner this year. I just don't know which way to go. I have tried Bosley for women but you have be diligent and I haven't been. There are sooo many products out there for thinning hair and it's a bit overwhelming. I hate my hair now and seeing my scalp is really scary. Luckily I had beautiful hair (not to brag) so it's quite a shock to watch your hair thin slowly for a year. Thankfully I'm salt and pepper so the scalp doesn't show as much as it would if my hair were still dark. As far as snacking I never, thankfully, get heart burn even though I have a hernia. It's so hard because I'm up late but I will persevere. Thank you very much, I appreciate it.

Nancy

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@nscappa

Thank you very much Becky. My hair doesn't fall out and I don't see it in the drain. It has progressively gotten thinner this year. I just don't know which way to go. I have tried Bosley for women but you have be diligent and I haven't been. There are sooo many products out there for thinning hair and it's a bit overwhelming. I hate my hair now and seeing my scalp is really scary. Luckily I had beautiful hair (not to brag) so it's quite a shock to watch your hair thin slowly for a year. Thankfully I'm salt and pepper so the scalp doesn't show as much as it would if my hair were still dark. As far as snacking I never, thankfully, get heart burn even though I have a hernia. It's so hard because I'm up late but I will persevere. Thank you very much, I appreciate it.

Nancy

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The two prescription drugs worked for me and in the 3 months I was able to use them, my hair thickened. The 70% effective one is Finasteride, the 90% effective one is Dutasteride. Check them out on the internet and see how much they’ll cost. Side effects for female that I remember is breast enlargement and tenderness. Both are highly recommended and effective but you need a prescription because they’re classified as medication. It works for me but affect libido and ED and I believe it helps for male pattern baldness too.

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Hi Becky,
Thank you so much and I am printing out the info re the medicine. RE the breast enlargement that would be wonderful for me for obvious reasons. : ) Becky, don't I need a doctor's prescription??? If that's the case I should see a Nephrologist which I have not done yes. I should talk with my GP or just wait until I get my blood results. I pigged out yesterday because it's been three weeks since I did food shopping. I give myself one day every two weeks to enjoy myself and now I have cabbage, zucchini, frozen strawberries, red bell peppers, onions, eggs (for omelets) etc. Back on track. I am very careful with salt and so many other ingredients. Well, I'm rambling. Again, thank you for the helpful info. Take care.
Nancy : )

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Question: Does anyone experience a lighter urine flow or slower one??? Maybe not enough water even though I try but I think I'm not drinking enough. Thanks!

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@nscappa

Hi Becky,
Thank you so much and I am printing out the info re the medicine. RE the breast enlargement that would be wonderful for me for obvious reasons. : ) Becky, don't I need a doctor's prescription??? If that's the case I should see a Nephrologist which I have not done yes. I should talk with my GP or just wait until I get my blood results. I pigged out yesterday because it's been three weeks since I did food shopping. I give myself one day every two weeks to enjoy myself and now I have cabbage, zucchini, frozen strawberries, red bell peppers, onions, eggs (for omelets) etc. Back on track. I am very careful with salt and so many other ingredients. Well, I'm rambling. Again, thank you for the helpful info. Take care.
Nancy : )

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Yes, you need a prescription and your GP can give you one. Just make sure either strength doesn’t affect you or your other medications you may be taking. Just carefully read the online fact info because it can affect your testosterone level, yes, women also produce it for reproduction needs. You wouldn’t want to grow a beard on this drug would you? Side note: ever hear of a bearded woman in the circus freak show, all her body was doing was way overproducing the male hormone testosterone. To bad they didn’t know that back then. Oh yeah, the breast development is an overreaction men get from the drug, tho woman may benefit from it too.

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Thanks Becky and you have a great sense of humor. We all need that!! : )

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@becky1024

A number of things can cause hair thinning but there’s one many woman, myself included, that never heard about it. If you are going into menopause, I unfortunately started at 40, I’m 78 now, your estrogen/estradiol levels begin to drop. It’s Mother Nature’s way of protecting our bodies but there’s a drawback. We do need a small amount of the hormone to keep things working. If our bodies lack enough, it has a backup plan, it produces a substitute. The name of it is DHT, short for Dehydrotestosterone. It’s a killer our bodies make, bet you didn’t know that huh! What does it kill, the roots to your hair. This in turn cuts off the supply of blood to the root, causing the hair to become brittle and snap off. This occurs to most woman and pretty soon you can see the scalp. At first it’s a few hairs, then more and more till it starts to collect in the drain of the shower/tub. My hair is so thin now, I can blow a puff of air and watch my hair blow in the breeze. Don’t panic tho ladies, science helped up by creating 2 drugs that blocks most of the effects of DHT but naturally they’re expensive. If you have a good prescription plan or rich enough, I recommend both drugs. One stops the DHT effect by 70% the other by 90%. It worked for me but I had to stop either strength because of a medical problem it affects to much and my hair now is baby thin. So if you’re one of the ladies that are suffering from to much thinning hair, talk to your pcp about getting one of the drug strengths.

About your nighttime snacking, that’s a big NO-NO, especially if you end up with heartburn or GERD at night.

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Hello Becky
You perfectly explained the one of the reasons that thinning our hair !
I am on Tamoxifen 10 mg
It’s killing even more!
The castor or other oil as well as different treatments are useless.
Wander, if you can give the name of the drugs you mentioned for keeping our hair at place!!
Thank you

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@monigue

Hello Becky
You perfectly explained the one of the reasons that thinning our hair !
I am on Tamoxifen 10 mg
It’s killing even more!
The castor or other oil as well as different treatments are useless.
Wander, if you can give the name of the drugs you mentioned for keeping our hair at place!!
Thank you

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Finasteride is the 70% effective drug and Dutasteride is the 90% effective drug in blocking DHT. You will need a prescription from your pcp and make sure to check out the side effects with any of your other drugs. One side effect that men have is breast enlargement but it may do the same for women too. Also breast tenderness is another side effect for woman. The drug will also raise your testosterone level, yes, women produce it for reproduction reasons. So watch for any unusual hair growth on your body, like a beard or change in your voice. The drug is expensive tho, so it could be in the $100/$200 range for a 30 supply, unless you have a good health care plan. Good luck.

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Becky
Thank you for the replying.
I think the drugs have the side effect that I wouldn’t want to experience for the sake of better hair in my age.
Taking care for BC not reoccurrence is priority.
Wish you the best!

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