Diagnosed: MGUS

Posted by sandramgus @sandramgus, Jul 29, 2024

Hello everyone, I was diagnosed with MGUS after a routine physical, and my doctor made it sound like it wasn't that serious, but my (favorite) aunt died of multiple myeloma about 20 years ago. So, while I'm glad we caught it early, I have so much to learn. I'm still grieving the death of my mother (from a year ago) and it's a bit much to get this diagnosis after watching her die (she died from ALS.) I'm hoping to find some resources and advice here. Thank you all!

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@pmm

@lbhayes
Welcome to the Mayo Clinic Connect.
It certainly a chicken or egg situation to contemplate. There is a MGRS. I suspect the renal significance is when they can connect the dots between the M paraprotein and renal decline. I will post some information about it for you. It’s not easily available to me at this moment but I can remedy that in a few minutes.
Generally speaking, the hematologist/oncologist will do a whole body scan to look for bone lesions on a regular basis. If you have questions about bone pain or you are worried about progression, I would talk to your physician and certainly not wait for a year. I don’t know about you, but I always forget my questions when I go to see my doctor. I have begun to write them down in a notebook that I carry with me when I go for my doctors appointments.
If you feel dissatisfied with your medical care, you can always get a second opinion. This is a complicated blood disorder and you’re right to ask all your questions and ensure that your physician is able to connect all the dots between your symptoms and their etiology.
I’m sure some of your questions will be answered when you see your nephrologist.
Many of us have coexisting conditions that don’t have anything to do with MGUS. But the MGUS can certainly complicate things and the connection, or lack there of, has to be ruled out.
I have learned how to advocate for my health care. I have learned to be the squeaky wheel, but not alienate my treatment team. I look at my PCP and those specialist that I see as partners with me in deciding what is right for me treatment wise. I listen to them carefully, I ask lots of questions and I do my own research if it’s something I’m concerned about.
It’s also really nice to be connected through this forum as there are many people here who have already gone down the path that I am traveling and have good practical counsel for me. I was diagnosed with MGUS only three years ago and there are people “here” who have been living with MGUS successfully for well over a decade.
I’m really glad you found us. Do you feel comfortable in calling your doctor and asking for a telehealth appointment or a phone call so you can ask all your questions? If so, would you let me know how that goes for you? I’d also like to know what your nephrologist has to say if you’re comfortable with sharing that information.

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Hi I was diagnosed with MGUS last year by my neurologist. He sent me to my hematologist. He was checking my blood every 4 months and now when he checked it in Jan, everything was quite normal. He said he didn’t need to see me till next year.
I have been overweight and wanted to drop some weight. I went on Waygovy in February. I was losing weight and then began to experience frequent constipation and diarrhea. I stayed on it for a few months lost 14 lbs. I wound up with a flu and then the night sweats started. I went off Waygovy 2 months ago. I feel a lot better off it.
No more diarrhea. But I did notice I have a lot of back ache in my lumbar and upper back. Also every night now I wake up around 4am with a fast beating heart. I think the Waygovy brought on Amyloidois. I reached out to my Dr and he is on vacation so I went to another Dr to get some blood tests. My light free chain is elevated. I really hope I didn’t fast foward this blood disease with the Waygovy.

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@maddogstormy @scbookgirl75
I’m so glad for this discussion. It’s one of those “who needs to think about this right now” moments for me. I have been so distracted by recovery from a planned reconstructive surgery which I botched by falling. It’s a reminder that we take one day at a time dealing with our health, but we also need to consider what we want the rest of our lives to look like.
MGUS is not cancer and the risk of progression is low, but for some it does progress to smoldering or Multiple Myeloma. We must be diligent and do our part in the watchful waiting response. Hopefully we get a good Hematologist/oncologist who has a great deal of experience treating Multiple Myeloma. They can keep abreast of the studies, trials and coordinate our treatment with specialists treating coexisting conditions but ultimately, we must advocate for ourselves.
If I am burdened by other health concerns that require my focus, you can bet that I will be passing the football to my hem/onc guy and making sure he is paying attention. In my case, he scheduled an appointment for scans and blood draws for next week well in advance of my surgery. He can pay attention to my progress through shared medical records. Once I can walk again without a cane I can get back to business.
Since most of us who write in this forum are not medical doctors, we do not interpret lab results or give medical advice, but I do enjoy reading about people’s experiences, what they have tried and what seems to help. We can talk to our specialist about this and see what they have to say and make sure that we’re not doing something that is still advised for whatever reason. I view my relationship with my hem/onc doctor as one of teamwork. I hope everyone finds that doctor who is a good fit in this regard. I don’t have the medical expertise, but I know my body pretty well having lived in it for 73 years and there is some benefit to that history.
I look forward to hearing more about your journeys so I hope you will stick with us and let us know how things are going along the way. I’d like to hear more about your acupuncture, MDS.

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@scbookgirl75

I didn't want to start a new thread for something similar to your post-so I apologize and don't mean to be "hijacking" your post. 🙂 What were your markers/blood levels /urine screening, etc. that resulted in a MGUS diagnosis? Currently working my way through some tests and such and sort of feel that may be the road we're heading down. Like others, it started with visits to the dr. for something else-my PCP referred me to a pulmonologist since I have had Covid 5 times and keep having low sats. CT of my chest showed micro-nodules and some inflammation. Sats drop occasionally to high 80s and upper 90s, but will then right themselves in a bit. I have had lots of fatigue and hip pain. Also frequent kidney stones. I've had iron deficiency anemia for over 15 years, and my latest tests show that my iron is 25, Transferrin sat is 5%, TIBC is high at 457, and ferritin is low at 10. (All typical for iron anemia.)
However, the latest batch of tests show a few oddities that make me wonder if MGUS is on the horizon:
A UPEP 24 hour urine showed my protein is 279, which if I am reading online correctly, is a bit high.
Albumin is low at 26.7% (From what I read, 50-60% of your urine protein should be from albumin?)
Beta Globulin is high at 33.2%, my IgA is 499 (but down from 537), my serum immunofixation electrophoresis showed an increase in the beta fraction with a beta globulin of 1.4 g/dl.
IgG subclass 3 is low at 14, my albumin is low at 3g/dl,
From what I've read a high IgA and low IgG3 can mean possible plasma cell or immune dysregulation.
With the beta globulin spike on urine electrophoresis and the moderate proteinuria, along with low albumin, along with the iron issues, elevated platelets, fatigue, etc. I am wondering if anyone else had similar issues?
I realize MGUS isn't cancer and just requires careful watching but I tend to worry less when I'm well informed. Thanks for any info, and well wishes to you all on your health journeys.

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Hi. Thank you for connecting. I am not sure I have the ability to take a dive into your numbers but I can share a bit about my journey. MGUS arrived from a low hemoglobin on a CBC that I had when I was putting together program to recover from Long Covid. That lead very quickly to an elevated Mspike and light chains that were out of normal range. I choose not to educate myself in the blood disorder focusing instead on recovery from Long Covid. That took a lot of work. Many doctors. Many tests. And I was successful. Getting a clear in fall 24. Then everything went haywire. That lead to an appointment at Dana Farber and many more tests including a second bone marrow biopsy. Mar 25 I was elevated to Smoldering. Still a weird and fuzzy diagnosis. Not as funny to me as undetermined significance. Clearly more serious and since then a lot of eduction. And community building. I would say focus on rhe symptoms and do your best to address them and use this time to live as fully as you can. So many symptoms are possibly connected to this disorder but it is hard to verify. Acupuncture three times a week was part of my program in the fall of 21 and I know that really helped me recover. Good luck in your coming month. I am going to travel for a bit this summer and I am making some big changes in my planning for the next 5 years. ChatGPT has been a powerful tool to think this all thru as well. Take care and thanks for connecting again.

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@scbookgirl75

I didn't want to start a new thread for something similar to your post-so I apologize and don't mean to be "hijacking" your post. 🙂 What were your markers/blood levels /urine screening, etc. that resulted in a MGUS diagnosis? Currently working my way through some tests and such and sort of feel that may be the road we're heading down. Like others, it started with visits to the dr. for something else-my PCP referred me to a pulmonologist since I have had Covid 5 times and keep having low sats. CT of my chest showed micro-nodules and some inflammation. Sats drop occasionally to high 80s and upper 90s, but will then right themselves in a bit. I have had lots of fatigue and hip pain. Also frequent kidney stones. I've had iron deficiency anemia for over 15 years, and my latest tests show that my iron is 25, Transferrin sat is 5%, TIBC is high at 457, and ferritin is low at 10. (All typical for iron anemia.)
However, the latest batch of tests show a few oddities that make me wonder if MGUS is on the horizon:
A UPEP 24 hour urine showed my protein is 279, which if I am reading online correctly, is a bit high.
Albumin is low at 26.7% (From what I read, 50-60% of your urine protein should be from albumin?)
Beta Globulin is high at 33.2%, my IgA is 499 (but down from 537), my serum immunofixation electrophoresis showed an increase in the beta fraction with a beta globulin of 1.4 g/dl.
IgG subclass 3 is low at 14, my albumin is low at 3g/dl,
From what I've read a high IgA and low IgG3 can mean possible plasma cell or immune dysregulation.
With the beta globulin spike on urine electrophoresis and the moderate proteinuria, along with low albumin, along with the iron issues, elevated platelets, fatigue, etc. I am wondering if anyone else had similar issues?
I realize MGUS isn't cancer and just requires careful watching but I tend to worry less when I'm well informed. Thanks for any info, and well wishes to you all on your health journeys.

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Hi @scbookgirl75! Welcome to Connect. You’re not hijacking this tread at all. Conversations between members is what we’re all about. It’s a comfort to be able to speak with others sharing the same symptoms or diagnosis.

I think your comment was meant for @sandramgus but it doesn’t look as though she’s been active in the forum since she first posted this discussion. But there are plenty of members here including @pmm, @gingerw @paulita and others who were diagnosed with MGUS and know exactly what you’re going through. They’re willing to answer any questions you might have and share their experiences.

You’re not limited to this discussion either! If you type MGUS in the upper search bar you’ll also get a list of all the discussions regarding this blood condition.

Are you currently working with a hematologist or is this testing being done through your PCP?

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I didn't want to start a new thread for something similar to your post-so I apologize and don't mean to be "hijacking" your post. 🙂 What were your markers/blood levels /urine screening, etc. that resulted in a MGUS diagnosis? Currently working my way through some tests and such and sort of feel that may be the road we're heading down. Like others, it started with visits to the dr. for something else-my PCP referred me to a pulmonologist since I have had Covid 5 times and keep having low sats. CT of my chest showed micro-nodules and some inflammation. Sats drop occasionally to high 80s and upper 90s, but will then right themselves in a bit. I have had lots of fatigue and hip pain. Also frequent kidney stones. I've had iron deficiency anemia for over 15 years, and my latest tests show that my iron is 25, Transferrin sat is 5%, TIBC is high at 457, and ferritin is low at 10. (All typical for iron anemia.)
However, the latest batch of tests show a few oddities that make me wonder if MGUS is on the horizon:
A UPEP 24 hour urine showed my protein is 279, which if I am reading online correctly, is a bit high.
Albumin is low at 26.7% (From what I read, 50-60% of your urine protein should be from albumin?)
Beta Globulin is high at 33.2%, my IgA is 499 (but down from 537), my serum immunofixation electrophoresis showed an increase in the beta fraction with a beta globulin of 1.4 g/dl.
IgG subclass 3 is low at 14, my albumin is low at 3g/dl,
From what I've read a high IgA and low IgG3 can mean possible plasma cell or immune dysregulation.
With the beta globulin spike on urine electrophoresis and the moderate proteinuria, along with low albumin, along with the iron issues, elevated platelets, fatigue, etc. I am wondering if anyone else had similar issues?
I realize MGUS isn't cancer and just requires careful watching but I tend to worry less when I'm well informed. Thanks for any info, and well wishes to you all on your health journeys.

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@maddogstormy

Hi again, so I have the results from my recent labs and while numbers continue to increase or decrease in the wrong direction I am still Smoldering. I am currently waiting for a clinical trial to begin at Dana Farber for a bispecific treatment. I have continued to educate myself and have found this thread to be really helpful and the other threads that folks have here on Mayo connect. I now know a couple of people who are in treatment with very short notice, and have heard other people talk about receiving an active Multiple Myeloma diagnosis out of the blue and I am reminding myself that my situation is very different, I have this time now to pay attention to, I am not active, I am not in treatment, I am closely monitored, by skilled doctors, and practitioners. And if things change I will be prepared.

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I understand what you are going through. It's so helpful to me reading your comments while waiting to see if the results are getting better or worse. Thank you sincerely for your post.

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@maddogstormy

Hi again, so I have the results from my recent labs and while numbers continue to increase or decrease in the wrong direction I am still Smoldering. I am currently waiting for a clinical trial to begin at Dana Farber for a bispecific treatment. I have continued to educate myself and have found this thread to be really helpful and the other threads that folks have here on Mayo connect. I now know a couple of people who are in treatment with very short notice, and have heard other people talk about receiving an active Multiple Myeloma diagnosis out of the blue and I am reminding myself that my situation is very different, I have this time now to pay attention to, I am not active, I am not in treatment, I am closely monitored, by skilled doctors, and practitioners. And if things change I will be prepared.

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@maddogstormy Good attitude! Each of us has our unique journey. Yes, there might be similarities. It is good to be able to hear what others experience, and it helps us to understand our own situation.

Good luck on getting in to the clinical trial at Dana Farber.
Ginger

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@maddogstormy

Hello. I am new to SMM since march 25 and have my first follow up appointment with the doctor next week. MRI marrow scan was negative thankfully. I am having increased burning neuropathy in both hands and some thing new that feels like a very low level deep ache throughout my body. As though my bones were swollen. And I am extremely fatigued. I have been offered a clinical trial for Linvoseltamab to begin treatment. The MGUS is now “significant”. Smoldering is a strange word and I can’t help but imagine I am slowly falling deeper into this new kind of hell. I have so much and so many supporting me. Great doctors. Loving family and friends. Getting educated and maintaining balance is super challenging. I did have a great conversation yesterday with someone at MMRF about beginning treatment so early. It is really helpful to read all of these threads. I remember the years I had MGUS and sure wish I was still there and I remember one thought I had. Enjoy this while it lasts. Just in case it does progress. I can tell my self the same thing now. Enjoy this while it lasts. Just in case things change.

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Hi again, so I have the results from my recent labs and while numbers continue to increase or decrease in the wrong direction I am still Smoldering. I am currently waiting for a clinical trial to begin at Dana Farber for a bispecific treatment. I have continued to educate myself and have found this thread to be really helpful and the other threads that folks have here on Mayo connect. I now know a couple of people who are in treatment with very short notice, and have heard other people talk about receiving an active Multiple Myeloma diagnosis out of the blue and I am reminding myself that my situation is very different, I have this time now to pay attention to, I am not active, I am not in treatment, I am closely monitored, by skilled doctors, and practitioners. And if things change I will be prepared.

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@msh466

I only had life insurance when my kids were young. Once grown and moved out I discontinued it. My wife and I hade money so no need for life insurance. But all insurances always goes up. Regardless if you file no claim. Have no health issues. Have 20 year old junkers for cars. They jack up rates. So not a fan of insurance companies. Oh I know they’re in the business to make money. they also have the power to drop your policy.

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True for auto insurance but not for life—or they would drop everyone at a certain old age. Actually some policies do have a stop age for that reason.

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@msh466

I have smoldering multiple myeloma. Not sure how long I had MGUS before it progressed. Found totally by accident. M Protein is 2.0 and 15% plasma cells in bone marrow. Many do not progress past MGUS. This is a condition they will have the rest of their lives. Get tested often. Follow ups often and wait and see what develops if anything. No symptoms or illness with MGUS. So catching it with blood tests is usually by random. I too was taken aback seeing Hemonc doctor. Felt overwhelmed like this is it. But it’s been stable now for over a year. No progression or lesions and calcium normal. Abnormalities in M Proteins. Super high IgA. But they haven’t moved much. Blood work is due in May. Always a tense time waiting for results. A lot of this is mental. It’s a roller coaster of emotions.

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Hello. I am new to SMM since march 25 and have my first follow up appointment with the doctor next week. MRI marrow scan was negative thankfully. I am having increased burning neuropathy in both hands and some thing new that feels like a very low level deep ache throughout my body. As though my bones were swollen. And I am extremely fatigued. I have been offered a clinical trial for Linvoseltamab to begin treatment. The MGUS is now “significant”. Smoldering is a strange word and I can’t help but imagine I am slowly falling deeper into this new kind of hell. I have so much and so many supporting me. Great doctors. Loving family and friends. Getting educated and maintaining balance is super challenging. I did have a great conversation yesterday with someone at MMRF about beginning treatment so early. It is really helpful to read all of these threads. I remember the years I had MGUS and sure wish I was still there and I remember one thought I had. Enjoy this while it lasts. Just in case it does progress. I can tell my self the same thing now. Enjoy this while it lasts. Just in case things change.

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