Colloidal Silver

Posted by kristiemlove @kristiemlove, Dec 30, 2018

Seeking instructions and dosage for nebulizing colloidal silver.

My mom has used colloidal silver for YEARS from 'Herbal Healers Academy' in Arkansas, as well as "Silver Wings". Both are 500ppm. That, along with Bragg's Apple Cider Vinegar, has kept this woman the epitome of health for 68 years……until suddenly 8 weeks ago.

She has done some research and found one specific: Respiratory Relief by 'Nature's Rite'. It has peppermint oil and must be administered with a nebulizer, includes peppermint oil yet is only 45ppm. Recommendation is 3mm 3/day.

I would really like to hear anybody's experience, recommendations, suggestions, etc. THANKS SO MUCH!

Hi @kristiemlove

I wanted to introduce you to fellow Connect members @pfists @alleycatkate and @flib who all have experience with colloidal silver and may be able to offer assistance as you try to help your mother.

What happened 8 weeks ago to make your Mom take a downturn? Did the colloidal silver stop working or was the dosage changed? How is your mom doing now?

@ethanmcconkey

Hi @kristiemlove

I wanted to introduce you to fellow Connect members @pfists @alleycatkate and @flib who all have experience with colloidal silver and may be able to offer assistance as you try to help your mother.

What happened 8 weeks ago to make your Mom take a downturn? Did the colloidal silver stop working or was the dosage changed? How is your mom doing now?

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Thank you Ethan!

It was not a downturn, per se, rather a sudden onset. She went from a perfectly healthy woman who walks/jogs 4-6 miles/day 4/wk to completely reliant on prednisone and oxygen 24/7 in a matter of weeks after brief travel to Arizona (four-wheeling, helicopter). Preliminary diagnosis (after the bronchitis, pneumonia, valley fever, etc.) was Mac and Bronchiectasis, but have since learned the results were read at 3 weeks, not the full 6-8 weeks necessary. Apparently, the scope did not pull great tissue samples so they are going back in on Friday morning via VATS. We are, however, set up with UT Tyler and Dr. Griffith in a couple weeks.

Hi @kristiemlove
I do use coliadial silver only by mouth though.
I think there is one person on the board that was inhaling it. Hopfully she can chime in.
I do think the silver is effective against Mac but I was always afraid of the unknown of it possibly accumulating silver ions in the lungs. Hopfully taking orally is effective enough.
I was diagnosed three years ago and testing positive for over a year. But am now testing negative for one 1 1/2 years. I am using saline the vest and many herbal products I learned about in the book "Herbal Antibiotics" by Stephen Buhner. I have not used antibiotics for Mac. I was diagnosed with the bad strain Mycobacteria Abcessus. I believe there are nature alternatives.
Hope this helps!
Shari

Shari, that is very helpful. And encouraging. Thank you!
I just ordered the book.

@kristiemlove

Thank you Ethan!

It was not a downturn, per se, rather a sudden onset. She went from a perfectly healthy woman who walks/jogs 4-6 miles/day 4/wk to completely reliant on prednisone and oxygen 24/7 in a matter of weeks after brief travel to Arizona (four-wheeling, helicopter). Preliminary diagnosis (after the bronchitis, pneumonia, valley fever, etc.) was Mac and Bronchiectasis, but have since learned the results were read at 3 weeks, not the full 6-8 weeks necessary. Apparently, the scope did not pull great tissue samples so they are going back in on Friday morning via VATS. We are, however, set up with UT Tyler and Dr. Griffith in a couple weeks.

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@kristiemlove Personally, I would wait if I were your mother on the vats surgery until after she has seen Dr. Griffith. I say this based on info you have given me in the personal email. It seems to me that she has not been in the best of hands (I could be wrong) but surgery is serious, and I would wait until after seeing that good specialist. Does Dr. Griffith know about this pending surgery and thinks it's a good idea?

@kristiemlove …Hope i did not overwhelm with all the information I forwarded on botanical antibiotics. Given your background, I would guess you know how to sift the wheat from the chaff. I am hopeful that she will get a second opinion before going forward and am concerned along with @windwalker. Is the VATS being performed for biopsy purposes re cancer? Also concerned if it is the same Dr. that performed the bronchoscopy that sounded somewhat traumatic. I am a novice to these lung issues but her bronchoscopy experience was not what mine was, and frankly, sounded quite scary. I wish for only the best for your mom. Kate

@windwalker

@kristiemlove Personally, I would wait if I were your mother on the vats surgery until after she has seen Dr. Griffith. I say this based on info you have given me in the personal email. It seems to me that she has not been in the best of hands (I could be wrong) but surgery is serious, and I would wait until after seeing that good specialist. Does Dr. Griffith know about this pending surgery and thinks it's a good idea?

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Surgery was performed yesterday by a thoracic surgeon I researched and feel really good about. Dr. Griffith will not see her until her final MAC results (which is next week). They are scheduled to meet with Griffith at the end of January, but like you and @alleycat, I am highly doubting MAC is the Primary diagnosis.

@alleycatkate

@kristiemlove …Hope i did not overwhelm with all the information I forwarded on botanical antibiotics. Given your background, I would guess you know how to sift the wheat from the chaff. I am hopeful that she will get a second opinion before going forward and am concerned along with @windwalker. Is the VATS being performed for biopsy purposes re cancer? Also concerned if it is the same Dr. that performed the bronchoscopy that sounded somewhat traumatic. I am a novice to these lung issues but her bronchoscopy experience was not what mine was, and frankly, sounded quite scary. I wish for only the best for your mom. Kate

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@alleycat, NOT AT ALL!!!! Once the diagnosis is final, I will be going through everything. The surgeon who performed the procedure was a thoracic surgeon, NOT the original pulmonologist who performed the terrifying bronchoscopy. She should not have remembered or felt a thing had she been adequately anesthetized. They are definitely not happy and, depending on results of the VATS in 2 weeks, will be finding a new pulmonologist. Her VATS was yesterday. Part of the basis for the procedure was cancer and pleural effusion. I will keep you both updated. Thank you @alleycat and @windwalker !!!!

@kristiemlove

@alleycat, NOT AT ALL!!!! Once the diagnosis is final, I will be going through everything. The surgeon who performed the procedure was a thoracic surgeon, NOT the original pulmonologist who performed the terrifying bronchoscopy. She should not have remembered or felt a thing had she been adequately anesthetized. They are definitely not happy and, depending on results of the VATS in 2 weeks, will be finding a new pulmonologist. Her VATS was yesterday. Part of the basis for the procedure was cancer and pleural effusion. I will keep you both updated. Thank you @alleycat and @windwalker !!!!

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Update?

@pfists

Hi @kristiemlove
I do use coliadial silver only by mouth though.
I think there is one person on the board that was inhaling it. Hopfully she can chime in.
I do think the silver is effective against Mac but I was always afraid of the unknown of it possibly accumulating silver ions in the lungs. Hopfully taking orally is effective enough.
I was diagnosed three years ago and testing positive for over a year. But am now testing negative for one 1 1/2 years. I am using saline the vest and many herbal products I learned about in the book "Herbal Antibiotics" by Stephen Buhner. I have not used antibiotics for Mac. I was diagnosed with the bad strain Mycobacteria Abcessus. I believe there are nature alternatives.
Hope this helps!
Shari

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@pfists Hi Shari! I remember when I first came across you on Mayo Connect years back. You having the Abscessus variety of MAC really worried me, especially since you chose not to use antibiotics to treat it. You have come a long ways in turning your health around, and I commend you for listening to your inner self and doing what was right for you. You are a shining example of self advocacy. I want to personally thank you as well as the others, who, despite testing negative these days; continue to contribute to this forum. That is so generous of your time. Sharing your experience with this is so valuable, and we need to hear that it is possible to recover. Again, many, many, thanks.

@windwalker888
Teri
Thanks for your kind words you made my day!
I still get tested for Mac every two months or so and keep my fingers crossed every time I open the results. Though I haven't had MAC for about two years now Yay… I still have Bronchectasis and get infected with pseudomonas and aspergillus time to time.
I also receive a lot from this forum and feel close to all you as cyber friends. : )
I learned so much here also and continue to learn.
For anyone facing this disease its important not be afraid but learn as much as you can. Knowledge is powerful and Stay Hopeful…
There are new and safer treatments and hopefully cures in the near future.
Shari

@pfists

Hi @kristiemlove
I do use coliadial silver only by mouth though.
I think there is one person on the board that was inhaling it. Hopfully she can chime in.
I do think the silver is effective against Mac but I was always afraid of the unknown of it possibly accumulating silver ions in the lungs. Hopfully taking orally is effective enough.
I was diagnosed three years ago and testing positive for over a year. But am now testing negative for one 1 1/2 years. I am using saline the vest and many herbal products I learned about in the book "Herbal Antibiotics" by Stephen Buhner. I have not used antibiotics for Mac. I was diagnosed with the bad strain Mycobacteria Abcessus. I believe there are nature alternatives.
Hope this helps!
Shari

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Thank you for sharing.

Colloidal silver has come up several times in the MAC group. When it comes to supplements and complementary medicine, I always refer to NIH's National Center for Complementary and Integrative Medicine to better understand the proven evidence. See this information:

– Colloidal Silver https://nccih.nih.gov/health/silver

The first section of the page states: What’s the Bottom Line?
How much do we know about colloidal silver?
There are no high quality studies on the health effects of taking colloidal silver, but we do have good evidence of its dangers.

What do we know about the effectiveness of colloidal silver?
Claims made about the health benefits of taking colloidal silver aren’t backed up by studies.

What do we know about the safety of colloidal silver?
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has said that colloidal silver isn’t safe or effective for treating any disease or condition.

According to Dr. Brent Bauer from Mayo Clinic says "Colloidal silver isn't considered safe or effective for any of the health claims manufacturers make. Silver has no known purpose in the body. Nor is it an essential mineral, as some sellers of silver products claim."
You can read more in this article:
– Colloidal silver: is it safe? https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/consumer-health/expert-answers/colloidal-silver/faq-20058061

@colleenyoung

Colloidal silver has come up several times in the MAC group. When it comes to supplements and complementary medicine, I always refer to NIH's National Center for Complementary and Integrative Medicine to better understand the proven evidence. See this information:

– Colloidal Silver https://nccih.nih.gov/health/silver

The first section of the page states: What’s the Bottom Line?
How much do we know about colloidal silver?
There are no high quality studies on the health effects of taking colloidal silver, but we do have good evidence of its dangers.

What do we know about the effectiveness of colloidal silver?
Claims made about the health benefits of taking colloidal silver aren’t backed up by studies.

What do we know about the safety of colloidal silver?
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has said that colloidal silver isn’t safe or effective for treating any disease or condition.

According to Dr. Brent Bauer from Mayo Clinic says "Colloidal silver isn't considered safe or effective for any of the health claims manufacturers make. Silver has no known purpose in the body. Nor is it an essential mineral, as some sellers of silver products claim."
You can read more in this article:
– Colloidal silver: is it safe? https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/consumer-health/expert-answers/colloidal-silver/faq-20058061

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@colleenyoung Thanks Colleen, very sensible, every time I see that people are inhaling it and it is working I am very tempted.

@heathert

@colleenyoung Thanks Colleen, very sensible, every time I see that people are inhaling it and it is working I am very tempted.

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@heathert I would not inhale the coloidal silver. If you were to ever try it, do the pills. The less foreign matter we put into out lungs; the better off we are.

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