Have had chronic anal pain for 6 years

Posted by pomegranite14 @pomegranite14, Aug 10, 2015

Very quick summary:

- 20 yr old

- have had chronic anal pain for 6 years

- been to many many doctors and had first been told there was no evidence of anything on my rectum. the next doctor said it was a hemorrhoid (telling me to eat more fiber and drink more water). the next, a thrombosed hemorrhoid. even one doctor said it was an inflamed varicose vein. then I went to see another doctor when the pain did not go away after years and years of this, and I was told it was an anal fissure. I then had the botox injection to heal the fissure (during which the doctor found 4) and because the area was numbed for days afterwards, I could not feel how hard I was straining to go to the bathroom and I developed a new hemorrhoid.

Today I am certain that same hemorrhoid turned into a skin tag which I have had for months now. The same doctor who performed the botox injection suggested I could have crohns because of all the fissures I had before. I did some research and think I could have perianal crohns. Most of my symptoms match up. I also have had very bad heartburn for years as well as constipation which I wonder could be a symptom as well. I take stool softeners everyday and have tried everything, (I am gluten-free and vegan for years) but still every time I go to the bathroom I am in excruciating pain.

I spend my summer in Colorado in the mountains and I think the altitude makes the pain worse. I recently ended up in the emergency room (my second visit just for fissure/hemorrhoid pain) because the pain after going to the bathroom was just too bad. They gave me a prescription for the pain killer norco to take after I go to the bathroom because the pain is too horrendous. That helps but constipates you which is even worse for fissures/hemorrhoids/skin tags. I do not know what to do, after I go I cannot move for hours, the pain lasts for as long as 14 hours.

I have tried everything, and have had chronic pain for 6 years now and just want to figure out a diagnoses. Every doctor has told me something different, I know crohns is difficult to diagnose, but I feel like this could be it.

Can anyone help me figure out what this is and if it does indeed sound like perianal crohns? I cant take it anymore

Thank you!!!

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@richman54660

@marlailene111 @harper2018 This is just my opinion. The problem is: pelvic floor dysfunction and also the spasms of muscles are classic signs of myofascial pain. Stretching, exercise, supplements and some particular treatments of the pelvic floor are more likely to be fruitful than other approaches (There is a lot less invasive treatments than Botox injections, I think, moving forward). A lot of the pain and dysfuction may go away with changing diet and exercise (this takes time).
Hence, the long detailed post I made recently about Dr. Fors book and some info about supplements I've used may help a lot. A lot of that is done by you and a good pelvic floor therapist will also help greatly, I think.

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I don’t understand why I have piles. I am afraid that I will never be “normal” again. I am 10 days post injection and still having vaginal spasms after bowel movements. Using Niphedipine 4x day. Sitz bath 4 x day. The piles are larger than any hemmoroid I’ve ever had. The pain and fear is so frightening and I have no support from dr.

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@harper2018

I don’t understand why I have piles. I am afraid that I will never be “normal” again. I am 10 days post injection and still having vaginal spasms after bowel movements. Using Niphedipine 4x day. Sitz bath 4 x day. The piles are larger than any hemmoroid I’ve ever had. The pain and fear is so frightening and I have no support from dr.

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@harper2018 @pomegranite14 This pain is horrible. I know and the chronic pain can create sensitization which only makes it worse. Please do consider my comments earlier about the supplement called Rutin. Also, you may be making assumptions about "what" the pain is from. It could be that, it could be just a tight pelvic floor. That can create both muscle as well as nerve pain (burning, tingling, from tension on the nerves). I also sent both of you PM's (check your e-mails) if you want my supplement regimen (including the enzymes which did help me, I believe). The other supplements and my exercise regimen have brought my pain down to nearly zero.

I alluded to that in an earlier post: "This is just my opinion. The problem is: pelvic floor dysfunction and also the spasms of muscles are classic signs of myofascial pain. Stretching, exercise, supplements and some particular treatments of the pelvic floor are more likely to be fruitful than other approaches (There is a lot less invasive treatments than Botox injections, I think, moving forward). A lot of the pain and dysfunction may go away with changing diet and exercise (this takes time)." Pelvic floor rehab isn't just Kegels, either.

Hence, the long detailed post I made recently about Dr. Fors book and some info about supplements I've used may help a lot. There was a lot of detail there. Look it over. When you can, resume walking, exercise, make dietary changes and perhaps try the supplements. It will take time but you will heal. Have faith. Do the right interventions for that and it will work. I personally, would not opt for injections. Rutin and some other supplements can actually cure certain issues and some other supplements reduce pain. This will get better.

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@richman54660

@harper2018 @pomegranite14 This pain is horrible. I know and the chronic pain can create sensitization which only makes it worse. Please do consider my comments earlier about the supplement called Rutin. Also, you may be making assumptions about "what" the pain is from. It could be that, it could be just a tight pelvic floor. That can create both muscle as well as nerve pain (burning, tingling, from tension on the nerves). I also sent both of you PM's (check your e-mails) if you want my supplement regimen (including the enzymes which did help me, I believe). The other supplements and my exercise regimen have brought my pain down to nearly zero.

I alluded to that in an earlier post: "This is just my opinion. The problem is: pelvic floor dysfunction and also the spasms of muscles are classic signs of myofascial pain. Stretching, exercise, supplements and some particular treatments of the pelvic floor are more likely to be fruitful than other approaches (There is a lot less invasive treatments than Botox injections, I think, moving forward). A lot of the pain and dysfunction may go away with changing diet and exercise (this takes time)." Pelvic floor rehab isn't just Kegels, either.

Hence, the long detailed post I made recently about Dr. Fors book and some info about supplements I've used may help a lot. There was a lot of detail there. Look it over. When you can, resume walking, exercise, make dietary changes and perhaps try the supplements. It will take time but you will heal. Have faith. Do the right interventions for that and it will work. I personally, would not opt for injections. Rutin and some other supplements can actually cure certain issues and some other supplements reduce pain. This will get better.

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Thank you so much for the info. Going to try Rutin and add bit C I think you’re right on pelvic floor dysfunction. I appreciate the support

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@harper2018

Thank you so much for the info. Going to try Rutin and add bit C I think you’re right on pelvic floor dysfunction. I appreciate the support

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One question. Can’t afford to strain, have chronic con stipation so a bit worried about taking Rutin now.

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@harper2018

One question. Can’t afford to strain, have chronic con stipation so a bit worried about taking Rutin now.

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@harper2018 it’s a catch22, but the Rutin makes veins much stronger and can cure piles (if that is really what your pain is from) and actually not fear having to go. Many people swear by it. Don’t take my word for it - read online reviews. Take low dose 50 mg from total natural brand on Amazon 1x/day only; grind with teeth as you eat) and take with a stool softener (docusate sodium) and enough insoluble fiber. Dose up gradually. It stops bleeding and pain. Just don’t overdo it.
Also remember, you can chose not to “strain”. That can be a bad habit you can break. Some people also say diosmin/hesperidin helps too (try Swanson brand). However, Rutin is more of a sure bet. Also, don’t forget check out heathers tummy fiber. Heather has a website with products for IBS. Apparently the soluble fiber modulates the extremes - it might cure your issue. Try and take baby steps. You’ve got this!

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