fainting

Posted by TiredOfFainting @tiredoffainting, Jul 25, 2011

I am a 35 year old female. About 16 months ago I fainted for the first time while driving. I went to the ER and had lots of tests run. Nothing was found- normal EKG, EEG, ct of brain, holter monitor, stress test, echo, sugar level. Over the next 9 months I fainted 7 times. Six months went by and I was fine. Last week I fainted again. I've been seeing a cardiologist. I've done an EP study, 4 different tilt table tests, blood volume test. I have an implanted loop recorder. It recorded the last fainting episode. What I do know is that I have low blood pressure (I took it after I fainted: 67/38). I was usually in the 80s/50s. My bp drops for some unknown reason and then my heart skips several beats. Then I fainted. I was previously taking a beta blocker to stabilize my bp. I no longer take it. I am taking theophylline. It raises my bp and heart rate. I am normal weight, exercise 5-6 days week. I've done 2 half marathons and 1 whole marathon. This all started 3 weeks after my marathon. We've talked about putting in a pacemaker. I'm scared. I have 3 kids under 11 years old.

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@justkrs

I'm a 32 year old female. I had my first fainting episode almost 3 years ago. The first few months I was in the ER having blacked out at work almost once a week.
In time we learned that I had a combination of problems, and now 3 years later I'm still not ok, but many of my symptoms occur less often at least.

We found that my B-12 was so low it was non-existent because I have pernicious anemia. I now take weekly B-12 shots as my body can no longer absorb B-12 from food.

We also found my iron was crazy low, I was not only anemia but my body had no iron in storage (ferritin) either. Twice now I've been treated with IV iron protocols. My iron continues to drop for unknown reasons (we have run every test out there) so we check my blood counts monthly to monitor when I need more IV iron.

They started me 2 medications: Midodrine and Fludrocortisone. These both help alot with preventing me from actually blacking out all the way when I feel like I might.

In addition I transitioned to a high salt diet and increased my fluid intake to roughly 4 liters of water and juice a day.

With all of that in play things are managed to the point where I only fully black out maybe once ever other month or so and I've always had enough warning to sit or lay down first.
My continued problem is that after I black out, or almost black out, my heart rate drops to somewhere in the 32-45 range and stays there for hours or days on end. It is so low at that point that I can hardly get out of bed or function.

My team of docs (Primary Care, Cardiology, Neurology, Hematology, GI, Rheumatology, Gynecology) at this point are all scratching their heads. They cannot find any cause for the consistent low pulse. I was even hospitalized for a few days after my last blackout until my pulse was back above 50 and they were not able to determine the root of the problem, nor a way to treat it. We just had to "Wait it out".

Next week I go to talk to my cardiologist again. We are considering putting in a pacemaker to see if can at the very least help my body to bounce back AFTER an episode, if not prevent the syncope in the first place.

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my cardio has me wear a heart monitor and keep my pulse below 165 while working out. And I only work out a few times a week.
Keeping my pulse below 165 and not doing things that cause my pulse to quickly jump from slow to fast or fast to slow during workouts - these have helped alot in me not blacking out while working out.

Also I eat alot of protein every day because I need to watch my iron levels, and try to be less tired.

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@justkrs

I'm a 32 year old female. I had my first fainting episode almost 3 years ago. The first few months I was in the ER having blacked out at work almost once a week.
In time we learned that I had a combination of problems, and now 3 years later I'm still not ok, but many of my symptoms occur less often at least.

We found that my B-12 was so low it was non-existent because I have pernicious anemia. I now take weekly B-12 shots as my body can no longer absorb B-12 from food.

We also found my iron was crazy low, I was not only anemia but my body had no iron in storage (ferritin) either. Twice now I've been treated with IV iron protocols. My iron continues to drop for unknown reasons (we have run every test out there) so we check my blood counts monthly to monitor when I need more IV iron.

They started me 2 medications: Midodrine and Fludrocortisone. These both help alot with preventing me from actually blacking out all the way when I feel like I might.

In addition I transitioned to a high salt diet and increased my fluid intake to roughly 4 liters of water and juice a day.

With all of that in play things are managed to the point where I only fully black out maybe once ever other month or so and I've always had enough warning to sit or lay down first.
My continued problem is that after I black out, or almost black out, my heart rate drops to somewhere in the 32-45 range and stays there for hours or days on end. It is so low at that point that I can hardly get out of bed or function.

My team of docs (Primary Care, Cardiology, Neurology, Hematology, GI, Rheumatology, Gynecology) at this point are all scratching their heads. They cannot find any cause for the consistent low pulse. I was even hospitalized for a few days after my last blackout until my pulse was back above 50 and they were not able to determine the root of the problem, nor a way to treat it. We just had to "Wait it out".

Next week I go to talk to my cardiologist again. We are considering putting in a pacemaker to see if can at the very least help my body to bounce back AFTER an episode, if not prevent the syncope in the first place.

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Try adding an endocrinologist to that mix of doctors. Syncope can be from an endocrine problem. Check adrenals, thyroid, pituitary function. Do the blood work in the A.M. It sounds like an endocrine or dysautonomia problem.... like POTS or NCS or adrenal insufficiency both primary and secondary..

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Have your Doctor check you for Ventricular Tachycardia.Its an easy test and for the most part , it"s something that can be treated with meds,

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This sounds suspiciously like Mueniere's disease (hope I got the spelling right). Q: have you had any nausea associated with the fainting problem? Any problem with your hearing?

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@tiredoffainting

I wanted to add that I've fainted while in different positions: standing, sitting, lying down, squatting on the floor. Some of the times I heard the same music in my head before I fainted (but not every time). I would appreciate any one's help or comments. Thanks!

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I'm 33 and had to get a pacemaker Jan 2012 ! I understand you being scared I have 3 kids also 13, 12,and 6. I was have a fast pulse rate and heart palpitations ! So they made me wear a monitor and while wearing it on my way to the dr I passed out and my heart quite for 9.6 seconds so that qualified me for a pacemaker! They aren't sure why this happened. I still have a fib and fast pulse rate and have thyroid issues they think that is causes all my problems. I hope you get it figured out soon.

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