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To vaccinate or not to vaccinate? That is the question.

Posted by silverwoman @silverwoman, Jan 4, 2021

<p>I know I am not the only post-transplant patient who is thinking about getting the coVID vaccination. My nurse coordinator has told me that the transplant team at Jacksonville has not approved vaccination yet because of the lack of experience with it for our group. One of the Infectious Disease doctors has indicated in a Mayo communication that transplants should be getting vaccinated. The nurse coordinator has said that if we choose to get vaccinated then we should do our laboratories once a week. I'm frustrated and confused by the lack of clear guidance and seemingly conflicting opinions. Is anybody else feeling like this? Have you made any decisions about when and if you will get vaccinated?</p>

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lioness | @lioness | Mar 16, 2021
In reply to @dont "Here is an alternative perspective. Mass Vaccination in a Pandemic – Benefits versus Risks: Interview with..." + (show)
@dont

Here is an alternative perspective.

Mass Vaccination in a Pandemic – Benefits versus Risks: Interview with Geert Vanden Bossche https://youtu.be/ZJZxiNxYLpc

https://dryburgh.com/geert-vanden-bossche-open-letter-to-who-halt-all-covid-19-mass-vaccination/
Not verified.

***Community Director's Note***
Claims and analogies made by Geert Vanden Bossche "break down in the face of data."
- The Doomsday Prophecy of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bossche

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@dontEveryone is different how the body reacts Our systems are different

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Colleen Young, Connect Director | @colleenyoung | Mar 16, 2021
In reply to @dont "Here is an alternative perspective. Mass Vaccination in a Pandemic – Benefits versus Risks: Interview with..." + (show)
@dont

Here is an alternative perspective.

Mass Vaccination in a Pandemic – Benefits versus Risks: Interview with Geert Vanden Bossche https://youtu.be/ZJZxiNxYLpc

https://dryburgh.com/geert-vanden-bossche-open-letter-to-who-halt-all-covid-19-mass-vaccination/
Not verified.

***Community Director's Note***
Claims and analogies made by Geert Vanden Bossche "break down in the face of data."
- The Doomsday Prophecy of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bossche

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It can be challenging to evaluate reliable, trustworthy, credible sources regarding COVID-19 as the medical analyses and knowledge evolve. Some things to look for when evaluating your sources:
- Is the evidence based on science?
- Who is the publisher? (LinkedIn, Twitter, Facebook are not reliable publishers)
- What is the funding source for the publication or author?
- Has the evidence been published in a peer-reviewed medical journal?

Here is some information about COVID-19 and vaccines from Mayo Clinic
- COVID-19 vaccines: Get the facts https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-vaccine/art-20484859

Also follow Mayo Clinic News Network for up-to-date, evidenced based information here: https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/category/covid-19/

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JK | @contentandwell | Mar 16, 2021
In reply to @imallears "@contentandwell As for herd immunity, the news is saying almost half the country do not want..." + (show)
@imallears

@contentandwell
As for herd immunity, the news is saying almost half the country do not want to get the vaccine. That’s why the president is urging doctors and clergymen to reach out to their patients and parishioners to persuade them otherwise. It’s very political unfortunately and I think more leaders should speak up. That being said...I know of people my age who are adamant about not receiving the vaccine because they don’t trust it and these are not anti-vaxxers by any means.

So I am wondering if we will ever reach herd immunity. They say at least 70% of the population needs to be either vaccinated or have had Covid. I have had both Pfizer shots and am flying out of state in less than 2 weeks with 2 family members who are both vaccinated. I will continue to take precautions and wear a mask but have not let this virus limit my daily life in any way. Of course I hope more people will get onboard but am not holding my breath. As you know Florida has been open for quite a while and I can see people letting down their guard. I am hoping our governor doesn’t follow other states who have abolished the mask mandate.
As long as establishments, stores, airports require masks and sanitizer is everywhere we will continue to do what we are doing.

FL Mary

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@imallears I realize that herd immunity may not come at all due to people resistant to being vaccinated for various reasons, incomprehensible to me. Even though many people are now vaccinated the recommendation of the CDC is no non-essential travel. That of course is not to protect a traveler who has been vaccinated but to help with containing the spread. When there are a greater number of people vaccinated, closer to summer, things should improve. I have gone this long making these sacrifices, it would seem silly to stop them when we are so close to things improving.

If a vaccinated person travels and is exposed to Covid they will most likely not get sick but they can be harboring the virus and shed it causing others to get sick which is the why for non-essential travel. My son is really unhappy that I will not endorse his traveling here for a visit but as much as I miss him terribly and want to see him, I feel it's the right thing for the overall good. He will be visiting his in-laws in SC but they have encouraged their daughter and David to visit all the way through this. We obviously have very different philosophies.
JK

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JK | @contentandwell | Mar 16, 2021
In reply to @luckonetj "I JK, I have not got the vaccine yet. I am going to get the antibody..." + (show)
@luckonetj

I JK, I have not got the vaccine yet. I am going to get the antibody test first to see if I have already been infected since Back in April 20 I had a long lasting chest cold. As a matter of personal protection. I might waite to see how you folks and pregnancies are effected by the vaccine. If I don't have the antibody then I will get the vaccine. Remember, over 2000 people world wide have parishes after taking the vaccine.

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@luckonetj If you possibly had Covid almost a year ago I think you would still be advised to get the vaccine. They are saying if you have Covid to wait three months and then to get it. If you're pregnant that could be a different story, I have no idea about that.

I'm not sure what you mean by "2000 people world wide have parishes after taking the vaccine", I am sure there is a typo in there but I can't for the life of me figure out what that should mean.
JK

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imallears | @imallears | Mar 16, 2021
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@contentandwell

@luckonetj If you possibly had Covid almost a year ago I think you would still be advised to get the vaccine. They are saying if you have Covid to wait three months and then to get it. If you're pregnant that could be a different story, I have no idea about that.

I'm not sure what you mean by "2000 people world wide have parishes after taking the vaccine", I am sure there is a typo in there but I can't for the life of me figure out what that should mean.
JK

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@contentandwell
She may have meant “perished”.

FL Mary

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lioness | @lioness | Mar 16, 2021

@contentwell If she meant 2000 people worldwide just think how many billion people are in the world then that's pretty good odds don't you think and not a reason not to get the vaccine

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almula | @almula | Mar 17, 2021

I had first shot of Pfizer two day ago and it seems to be ok with small side effects...the bad news that my sister passed away yesterday suffering from covid-19..I hope all people get the vaccine to protect themselves and others..

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imallears | @imallears | Mar 17, 2021
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@almula

I had first shot of Pfizer two day ago and it seems to be ok with small side effects...the bad news that my sister passed away yesterday suffering from covid-19..I hope all people get the vaccine to protect themselves and others..

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@almula
Please accept my condolences. That is devastating. Thank you for taking the time to share.

FL Mary

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Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor | @rosemarya | Mar 17, 2021
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@almula

I had first shot of Pfizer two day ago and it seems to be ok with small side effects...the bad news that my sister passed away yesterday suffering from covid-19..I hope all people get the vaccine to protect themselves and others..

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@almula, I am sad to hear of the passing of your sister. This pandemic has touched so many of us so very deeply. I think she would be happy to know that you are doing your best to take care of yourself by getting your vaccination.

@almula - You might be interested in this a 1-hour live webinar on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 at 6:00PM EST to share the findings and answer questions and to share preliminary findings from Johns Hopkins Research about the protection for transplant recipients. If you are unable to view the live webcast, the webcast will be recorded. If you register for the webinar you can submit a question.
Register here: https://jhjhm.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_JeYGrUDPQjSt0KacczGMRQ

Here is a discussion in Transplant Group where other members are sharing their plans to participate or to view planning to participate.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/immunocompromised-with-transplants-and-vaccines-left-out/

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Merry, Alumni Mentor | @merpreb | Mar 17, 2021
In reply to @almula "I had first shot of Pfizer two day ago and it seems to be ok with..." + (show)
@almula

I had first shot of Pfizer two day ago and it seems to be ok with small side effects...the bad news that my sister passed away yesterday suffering from covid-19..I hope all people get the vaccine to protect themselves and others..

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@almula- Oh, my word no! This hurts my heart to hear this. Losing a sibling is like losing a piece of your history. I lost my twin several years back. My sincere condolences.
I too had my first Moderna shot Sunday. No severe reactions but had a migraine, aches pains...these are so worth it. Thank you for sharing your story and I certainly hope that it will change at least one person's mind.
Again, my heartfelt condolences.
Merry

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