How do you deal with stubborn doctors?

Posted by learningstudent @learningstudent, Oct 5, 2020

I am just wonder how you guys deal with stubborn doctors who cannot diagnose your symptoms and keep saying you have anxiety disorder and that is what causes all the symptoms you have?

I have been dealing with these doctors, two of whom are family doctors and one of them is from uw medicine and another whom I have been seeing for a year and who does not really care about my health issues. I know they judge our health issues based on reports of test results and reports of other doctors or specialists. But what about sometimes the reports they wrote are not accurate and some of the test results present mild symptoms? This is what happens to me, because some of the visit summaries or notes or reports they wrote are not accurate, which is not something I said and discussed with them and I talked to them and asked them to fix and they will not. Also most of the results are negative but some work-ups are positive? How do they judge you that you have anxiety? This is so frustrating because that will affect any future diagnosis from other specialists cuz we know that sometimes our health issues are not caused by anxiety or mental issues.

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I make a list of questions and print out two copies, one for me and one for the doc. I listen carefully and ask follow-up or clarifying questions. I take full advantage of my 15 or 20 minute appointment and use the time well. I'm not there to talk about the weather, and am prepared and focused during the appointment.

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I have been working with cardiology at Mayo for 3 years and I have seen 22 cardiologists. ALL have been nothing but first class. The philosophy of Mayo is "The Patient Comes First." Therefore, I don't have to get along with the doctor, the doctor has to get along with me. If they don't do it, they're gone.

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@shawnb2020

First off, I'm sorry to hear your dealing with it. It can be very frustrating when you know how you feel and they try to tell you that there is no way that your feeling that way. Just have to keep pushing the issues, whether it's with your current doc or finding another. Like others said, just don't mention what the other doctor thinks. Tell them what you know to be true to you and let them come to their own conclusion. Can even mention that you don't agree with the pervious one and thats why you sought them out. I have had limited time with that issue. My previous doc kept telling me after my second heart attack in 6 months time that I was fine and that it's normal to feel like another is coming on. After about a month of that and then his next answer being "your fine, i'll see you again in 6 months." I went the next day and sought out a new one. Low and behold he was like no it's not normal. He scheduled an appointment for a week later to go in and look, i beat him to it though by 3 days later getting a helicopter ride from my local er to their sister hospital in Milwaukee having my 3rd only a few months after the second. My current issue is slightly different but under the same category though. I keep having what feels like mini heart attacks and he kinda brushes it off. A few ER trips have had a few overnights but at the end they can't really figure out why. The last they figured out that something was off cause I have now made it into heart failure. The ER docs suggested I look into going to Mayo at least for a second opinion (or at least a first since my doc doesn't have much to say about how i got here and why). So i go through all the work of getting an appointment setup and they tell him all he has to do is send a referral so the insurance will cover it. My next appointment with him before the Mayo trip he asks when i'm suposed to go and asks to get copies of everything. 3 days into the trip Mayo tells me he never sent in a referral so until they get one they will have to cancel my pending appointments. But that they did fax something to him the day before asking again and hadn't heard back. I get a call shortly after the 6 hour drive home from his nurse saying that he never sent one to them cause he "had" sent one to the sister hospital in Milwaukee for me to go to their advanced heart failure clinic instead. Which made no sense to me. So i left a message on how this process works so i can go to this other one. 2 days later they send me a message through their online thing that says that they sent the referral again and to expect a call. Now almost a week after having to leave Mayo i still have not gotten a call or have anymore info on going to this other one. From what seems to me falls under an issue of pride. Like no i'm not going to let you go to Mayo, we can figure this out when they haven't done so well on that front so far and without a referral from him theres no way around it unless i want to pay out of pocket (which isn't even an option). And i know if i find a new doc they aren't going to give me a referral first visit and want to try to work the issue. So i'm stuck in a hard place cause of a doctors pride. Have an appointment with him in the morning so hopefully he will have a better answer about this clinic of theirs other then wait for them to call whenever they get around to it.

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Sorry you are having this issue. Maybe find a new doctor that came from Mayo? OR call the doctor and ask again nicely and directly for the referral and remind him you already drove there and want to continue there for your second opinion. Good luck.

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That's a lot of cardiologists in 3 years. If I may ask, why have you had so many different doctors? I've had 2 cardiologists in 3 years. I saw the 2nd cardiologist because the first one relocated to another state.

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