Cochlear Implant expenses: How much does it cost?

Posted by Bill Gebhardt @billgebhardt, May 30, 2020

Interesting that in all the discussions on implant, no mention of costs. This was on of my questions in my bio: "What does an implant cost and how receptive is Medicare in helping with the cost?". I have an appointment with UC Davis in Sacramento in August to consider an implant. My finance manager, (of 55 years) and I have no idea of the costs. Bill

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Wonderful. Do you like yours? I have been contemplating the testing but wanted to finally get as deaf as I am. Your Comments to bill54321 Big time Thanks!

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@lizzy102

I didn’t pay out of pocket for mine. Medicare and insurance paid all of it. If they hadn’t paid, I would have paid. To me, it would be worth it.

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Wonderful for you but please give us an approximate money wise. That is if you were given the amount on your paperwork. Thank you. This way the people without insurance coverage will get an idea of the cost .

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@joyces

If you have Medicare without any additional insurance, there will be some significant costs. If you have Medicare plus an Advantage plan, there will still be costs, probably significant ($1,000 or more I'm guessing). If you have Medicare plus a Part F plan, everything should be covered. We had no idea about the difference between Advantage and Part F plans (which are not generally advertised) until my husband was put on the list to receive a kidney just before he turned 65. He's younger, and we had group ins. for our two-person graphics company that cost $2,000/month--I hadn't been able to go on Medicare because that would have left him totally without ins. as the company group policy required a minimum of two people. The financial adviser at the transplant center told us that he needed to apply for Part F coverage (instead of an Advantage plan) as soon as he turned 65 and was eligible. At the time, he hadn't been on dialysis long enough (a year) to go on Medicare early: dialysis is $60,000/month, and our $2000 company plan only paid 80%, leaving $12,000/month for us to pay! The month he turned 65 he applied for a Part F plan through our regular broker, and we immediately owned absolutely nothing for dialysis. Two years later, he got a kidney, and the transplant cost not one penny!

That, in a nutshell, is the difference between Advantage plans and Part F (or even newer plans now available). Advantage plans tout that they cover vision and hearing, but they only pay a tiny amount toward glasses or aids. They pay part of the 20% that Medicare doesn't cover, but far from all, plus there are co-pays. Part F means that you pay nothing for anything medical: no co-pays, nothing. However, Part F does not pay for glasses or hearing aids, although they do cover all associated doc visits. Although I couldn't get Part F when my husband went on Medicare, I was able to elect Part F when we moved to another county by switching to an Advantage plan that didn't cover people in the county we moved to. I questioned whether it was worth it to pay so much more for Part F every month (at that time about $150 plus a $35 pharmacy plan (Part F doesn't cover pharmacy except "medical" pharmacy, like the horribly expensive anti-rejection drugs). Since I had experienced Stage 1 cancer (roughly a quarter million in expense, 20% of not covered by our company policy), I did elect Part F--and less than a year later learned that I'm now in the early stages of kidney failure, i.e., need to see a specialist every three months, with over a thousand in labs, all of it totally paid by Medicare and Part F.

Here's the short form: Anyone on Medicare has about $200 deducted from their SS before it arrives, their share of Medicare, exactly the same for everyone. Advantage plans cover some of most things, and some are totally free, while others cost modest amounts. However, you can be left with very large amounts to pay on your own. Again, the promised vision and hearing coverage is a token amount, far from the cost of glasses or aids. Part F coverage (you may need to find a broker to buy it and you can only elect to have it for either 60 or 90 days after you become eligible for Medicare) now costs close to $300 month for me (at 78), about $250 for my 73 YO spouse. You also need to have a separate pharmacy plan, which generally costs $35-40/month. When you see a doc or an audi, you pay nothing. I know that the surgery for a CI would cost nothing, but I haven't yet learned how much Part F pays toward the CI itself.

If you can predict that you'll have excellent health for the rest of your life when you become eligible for Medicare, it's fine to opt for an Advantage plan. However, if you later have cancer, need a transplant or some other horribly expensive surgery, you simply can't afford to opt for Advantage. My Part F plan monthly premium will increase next month when I turn 78, meaning that I'll pay the $200 deduction from SS, nearly $300 for Part F (up from just over $200), plus $35 for pharmacy coverage: Less than $550 to never pay for anything medical. I need to add that Advantage plans pay something toward dental while Part F pays nothing. Since I haven't had real teeth for years, that's not a problem for me, but it can be a significant cost for my spouse. We track the amounts we'd owe (the portion of our bills Medicare doesn't pay), and month after month it's more than we pay for Part F and pharmacy ins.

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@joyces When I moved from MN to PA I had to get a new Medicare supplement. A medicare supplement advisor in PA recommended I get a Plan F supplement, which I am so glad I did in spite of its high cost. I read Plan F policies won't be offered any longer to new people coming on to Medicare but will be available for those of us who have them. Medicare and my Plan F supplement have covered almost $100,000 of unanticipated medical expenses in the last couple of years (with no copays) and I have another huge expense coming in the spring. I hope there will be similar plans in the future and I can keep the one I have.

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Reply about Plan F to Nia: You were very fortunate to have lucked onto a broker who advised you to get Plan F. When I turned 65, I couldn't go on Medicare because we had our own plan through our company (two of us) and both of us were required to keep it. Since he couldn't have gotten any ins. outside our "group" plan, I stayed on the plan for five years, until he turned 65. By then, he was seeing the transplant team, and their financial advisor told us that he needed to have an "F" plan in order to get a transplant (roughly half a million!). By then, I couldn't opt for Plan F (need to do it within 60 or 90 days of becoming eligible for Medicare), so I had a cheap, ineffective Advantage plan. Before we moved here, our broker suggested switching to an Advantage plan that wasn't available in this county so that I'd have 60 days to opt for a Plan F. I did it, even though it cost about $130/mo. and I had no health issues at the time. Hah--less than 6 months later, I learned that my kidneys were no longer functioning normally, were down to 60%, started seeing his kidney doc every quarter. Just the labs each time are almost a thousand, and I pay zip. Since I'd had cancer long ago and it cost over $200,000 even though it was only Stage 1, that was at the back of my mind. Well, next week I go back for more mammograms plus an ultrasound because "there's something suspicious." Egad!

It's the same thing with a supplemental pharmacy plan: it costs around $30 or more/mo., but, if you don't opt for it, you can't do that later when you need some expensive drug(s). So far, I've paid for the pharmacy plan and haven't ever collected one stinking dime on any of my prescriptions, but I know that it's there if I need it in the future.

I learned how dismal poor insurance can be during the hell of 2009: we both had surgery (plural for him), and, in spite of paying $2,000/mo. for our "group" plan through our company, it took me four years to pay off the debt not covered...and I'll never be bothered by credit cards again. <g>

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