@saeternes I am jealous of all of the people who get some type of massage at PT. I have never had that!
After looking at responses from you, @ellerbracke@clbs and @artscaping I am beginning to think that maybe I just had lower expectations than many others, or higher tolerance! I have become more conscious of my knees but honestly, the second one really does not give me any discomfort except when I really overdo. The right one, done either in 2012 or 2013 hurts more easily.