@jbrj04 I'm so glad to hear from you. I know we all search for the definitive answer when we're dealing with seemingly opposing forces. I am not familiar with the Fuhrman book; it seems that all these doctors and wannabe doctors and experts have books that will give all the answers. I do better checking the internet, especially the Mayo site and then seeing what my endocrinologist says too. I don't eat meats often; I prefer veggies. But my meat of choice is boneless, skinless chicken breasts or turkey breasts. I have a number of ways I prepare this meat that is very tasty. I do not digest red meat well, so I limit it to maybe once a week (3 oz.) and I also limit pork. I can do without meat, but protein is necessary for a healthy diet. Sometimes I get protein from eggs; those are easy to digest for me. Many of the veggies I saw on oxalate lists of foods to eat are also on the good foods for diabetes. It just takes some time to get it all sorted. I went to the oxalate list and checked my diabetes cards. If the veggies or fruit or whatever I was looking for was allowable in both instances. I wrote DO. That lets me know it's okay for both areas. If not, the card gets a D for diabetes or an O for oxalates. It takes time and research, but once you have your cards or lists, you can really prepare good food, and you'll find it's not so frustrating. I'm sure you can do this, and it will work---just check the numbers. I've been doing this for almost three years, and it certainly makes preparing meals so much easier. It helps my diabetes and my kidneys. Have you talked with a dietician? They can help you plan meals that satisfy both conditions. I'd like to know if you try it, and if you do, I will be happy that it works for you.
Carol

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