@jackiet make sure you’ve seen an orthopedic surgeon for your lumbar spine. They take a simple x-ray and a good orthopedic surgeon will tell you if your discs are falling out of place. I had an amazingly successful lumbar surgery with all the bells and whistles. Unfortunately, everybody waited too long to get me to the orthopedic surgeon. After 20 years, my discs fell completely out, the bones grafted together and it squished the life out of the exiting nerve roots so they couldn’t regenerate after surgery. People put an Oogie boogie on surgery, but if they wait too long and they don’t have a good orthopedic surgeon they may not be able to fully heal.