@jeffmarc I have had 3-4 bouts with kidney stones..started when I began using creatine supplement in Houston in late 1990's ( did not hydrate enough) ..first time was the worst..my exp was it made me feel VERY ill, nauseous, uncomfortable..couldnt sit..and I did not have a clue as to what was wrong..spent 3 hrs in ER pacing and waiting for doc..he diagnosed it immediately..I had litho a few days later and eventually ( 2 weeks later) passed a stone about the .22 cal size ( less brass) ..that part was painless..the other times were similar symptoms tho not near as bad...but pain wise, maybe 6 or 7 but you know there is something very serious because of nausea...I never have been a green beret with drinking alot of water but since starting radiation and having to keep bladder full, I do much better..and drinking 1/2 litre of water each morning does make you feel remarkably good !

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