Insomnia and depression

Posted by Iraku @iraku, Jun 21, 2012

I have noticed after the anti-depressant kicks in my insomnia has been slowly increasing. I feel wide awake for some period and then becoming so tired and thought that I could sleep but then when the light is off and I just slowly back to becoming wide awake again. I usually unable to sleep around mid night, the usual hour that I can fall asleep will moving away from 3 am to later and later. No matter how I tried to tired myself out and go to bed at normal hour, it won't happen. Please help!

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@iraku

This week has been quite tough physically. I tried to keep up with activities and stay on the high but every second day I woke up with aches and tiredness. On Monday acupuncture wasn't quite relaxing but painful so on Thursday Dr Lau left those fatigue points alone. I felt quite relaxing and feel less pain. I still feel the need to rest and don't think pushing myself physically would be a good idea. I will do my meditation and a light exercise a little later.

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Thanks Annie ...you have a great day my dear. hugs xoxo

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@iraku

This week has been quite tough physically. I tried to keep up with activities and stay on the high but every second day I woke up with aches and tiredness. On Monday acupuncture wasn't quite relaxing but painful so on Thursday Dr Lau left those fatigue points alone. I felt quite relaxing and feel less pain. I still feel the need to rest and don't think pushing myself physically would be a good idea. I will do my meditation and a light exercise a little later.

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sun helps me soooo much. Miami heat helps u with sleep and sadness. I moved back n feel better

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@iraku

This week has been quite tough physically. I tried to keep up with activities and stay on the high but every second day I woke up with aches and tiredness. On Monday acupuncture wasn't quite relaxing but painful so on Thursday Dr Lau left those fatigue points alone. I felt quite relaxing and feel less pain. I still feel the need to rest and don't think pushing myself physically would be a good idea. I will do my meditation and a light exercise a little later.

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Glad you feel better with the move China. Warm weather helps since our body don't need so much energy to keep ourselves warm...The cold also bad for my arthritis too.

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@iraku

This week has been quite tough physically. I tried to keep up with activities and stay on the high but every second day I woke up with aches and tiredness. On Monday acupuncture wasn't quite relaxing but painful so on Thursday Dr Lau left those fatigue points alone. I felt quite relaxing and feel less pain. I still feel the need to rest and don't think pushing myself physically would be a good idea. I will do my meditation and a light exercise a little later.

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I am curious about acupuncture. Does it really work? I have been wanting to try it for years but have never been able to afford it. I have tried everthing else. I am getting help from an Herbalist right now. I'm praying it works. If not, maybe I can try acupuncture. Thanks, LovinJesus

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@iraku

This week has been quite tough physically. I tried to keep up with activities and stay on the high but every second day I woke up with aches and tiredness. On Monday acupuncture wasn't quite relaxing but painful so on Thursday Dr Lau left those fatigue points alone. I felt quite relaxing and feel less pain. I still feel the need to rest and don't think pushing myself physically would be a good idea. I will do my meditation and a light exercise a little later.

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Hi LovinJesus, The acupuncture I go to is a qualified doctor. I do believe that not every acupuncture knows the healing. This also covered by medicare so I don't have to pay for the service just like seeing a GP. At first, I want to try if it could helps with the pain on my legs and it works brilliantly. I am now working on the fatigue but it's too soon to tell. I hope you find something that helps.

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Try exercising between 8 am and 10 am AND between 2 pm and 4 pm OUTDOORS. Couple that with melatonin 5 mg and magnesium with zinc ~400 mg magnesium and `25 mg of zinc one hour before bedtime to reset your clock. Go to bed at a set time, eg, 10 pm.

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@cbahoskie

Try exercising between 8 am and 10 am AND between 2 pm and 4 pm OUTDOORS. Couple that with melatonin 5 mg and magnesium with zinc ~400 mg magnesium and `25 mg of zinc one hour before bedtime to reset your clock. Go to bed at a set time, eg, 10 pm.

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OR ask your doctor about mirtazepine as an anti-depressant and pro-sleep med. AND ask yourself whether you like Rooibos tea to calm your nerves without sedating you. Recommend Celestial Seasonings Rooibos tea: Madagascar Vanilla Rooibos Tea. Rooibos = Africaner for Red Bush. The Red Bush grows in the semi-arid areas of S. Africa where man might have originated. Rooibos tea used by some South African doctors to mellow out after a stressful day wtthout sedation. Has no caffeine. Pretty reddish-brown color with vanilla, naturally sweet taste. If need additional sweetness use Stevia as natural sweetner vs sugar that might "activate you" like the rays of some TV sets that should not be glanced upon for at least two hours before going to bed.

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@iraku

This week has been quite tough physically. I tried to keep up with activities and stay on the high but every second day I woke up with aches and tiredness. On Monday acupuncture wasn't quite relaxing but painful so on Thursday Dr Lau left those fatigue points alone. I felt quite relaxing and feel less pain. I still feel the need to rest and don't think pushing myself physically would be a good idea. I will do my meditation and a light exercise a little later.

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For "tiredness' consider CoQ10 100 mg after a meal containing black pepper that contains a chemical, piperine, that helps with with the absorption of CoQ10. Also piperine is a non-specific monoamine oxiase inhibitor that has anti-depressant activity itself. BUT do not load yourself up with piperine in its over-the-counter very potent form. Then you might have interactions with medications, over the counters and alcohol that could greatly increase your blood pressure. It is hard to "overdose" on black pepper, except as pertains to your tummy. CoQ10 is a natural substance used by the body to generate energy in mitochondria. Sometimes "aches" might originate in small blood vessels more likely to spasm if depleted in CoQ10. Black pepper in a meal before taking CoQ10 can increase absorption into the body of the CoQ10 by about 130%. You thereby get more for your money.

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@iraku

This week has been quite tough physically. I tried to keep up with activities and stay on the high but every second day I woke up with aches and tiredness. On Monday acupuncture wasn't quite relaxing but painful so on Thursday Dr Lau left those fatigue points alone. I felt quite relaxing and feel less pain. I still feel the need to rest and don't think pushing myself physically would be a good idea. I will do my meditation and a light exercise a little later.

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Acupuncture might work in some by stimulating the release of nerve endings on small blood vessels of a chemical that causes the small blood vessels to dilate and thereby deliver more blood to the tissue, eg, muscle, thereby relieving some muscle aches caused by spasm of the small blood vessels. Aerobic exercise might help do the same thing by "stressing" the tissues for lack of oxygen, thereby causing the release of natural substances (eg heat shock proteins) by the body that positively affect blood flow in small blood vessels. This results in a pre-conditoning of the body to a tendency for the small blood vessels to "clamp down" as the result of physical and mental stressors. On the other hand depression enhances the body's tendency to have small blood vessels spasm and thereby cause not so nice "downsream effects".

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@iraku

This week has been quite tough physically. I tried to keep up with activities and stay on the high but every second day I woke up with aches and tiredness. On Monday acupuncture wasn't quite relaxing but painful so on Thursday Dr Lau left those fatigue points alone. I felt quite relaxing and feel less pain. I still feel the need to rest and don't think pushing myself physically would be a good idea. I will do my meditation and a light exercise a little later.

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Oh my, you are very knowledgeable yet made it simple for me to understand. Thank you so much. I will have to warm up on the exercises first because have very weak muscles and I pull them often, then I have to have pain and inflamatory medication with muscle relaxers. That tells me (I think) that I desperately need to srat exercising. Thank you so very much. Your response is much appreciated. Gerri

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