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Best Max Potency Multivitamin/Mineral With LOW B6!

Posted by sunnyflower @sunnyflower, Nov 25, 2020

Hello. My latest two vitamin B6 lab results (24 hours without my supplement) showed my B6 is abnormally high; double what it should be! I didn't realize I've been taking 50mg. in my Max Potency Multivitamin/Mineral supplement. I need to find an equivalent WITHOUT so much B6 in it. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have a lot of disease in my body besides Neuropathy so need a very good all-around multi-vitamin/mineral supplement b/c I don't eat very much. Thank you so much! Sunnyflower

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sunnyflower | @sunnyflower | Nov 29, 2020
In reply to @ken82 "@sunnyflower I am certain you know that Mayo lists the following problems that can be caused..." + (show)
@ken82

@sunnyflower I am certain you know that Mayo lists the following problems that can be caused by too much B6...
A lack of muscle control or coordination of voluntary movements (ataxia)
Painful, disfiguring skin lesions.
Gastrointestinal symptoms, such as heartburn and nausea.
Sensitivity to sunlight (photosensitivity)
Numbness.
Reduced ability to sense pain or extreme temperatures.

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Yes, thank you. I have discontinued the 50 mg of B6 last week and yet all last night from 11 last night until 11 this morning I was having severe muscle tetany. I finally went to bed about 8 this morning and had a semi-conscious sleep for 3 hours as I continue to work through the muscle tetany trying to stretch it out but nothing worked at all. So it is coming from another source than the B6. I am not a happy gal needless to say we'll get through this as I always do. This is not a rare or isolated incident. It happens far too often. Thank you for sharing, Sunny flower

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sunnyflower | @sunnyflower | Nov 29, 2020
In reply to @jesfactsmon "@sunnyflower Hi Sunny, a while back I spent a few hours looking at many different B..." + (show)
@jesfactsmon

@sunnyflower
Hi Sunny, a while back I spent a few hours looking at many different B complex supplements as I was also trying to find one with minimal B6. The one that had the lowest B6 component was Nature Made, here is the Amazon link: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B008PQDCG0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Another one by 1Body has just 5 mg. Here is that link: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QVKB66S/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A third one called igennus has just 20 mg (still way to much, but less than 50 mg) and has well sourced other components: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01787EPEE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I am not 100% sure what level of quality these all are. I have purchased all of them, 2 of which are so far unopened. Linda was not that impressed with any and so far I have not found any she is completely happy with. She used to take Integrative Therapeutics Active B-complex, which has great sources and bioavailability for all components, but it had 50 mg B6 so she quit taking that (I still do take that myself).

This has been and still is, a thorny problem to find the right B complex for her. If you come across anything good with LOW B6 please drop me a note. Best, Hank

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Hello Hank and thank you for your good information as always. I would not take the 50 mg of B6 if I were you. The recommended daily requirement is only 2 mg at the most. I have been off the B6 for a week and last night had severe tetany from 11 p.m. until 11 a.m. this morning. I could find no relief. I finally went to bed at 8 this morning and slightly dozed but was fully aware that I was trying to stretch out contractions as they just would not quit. So many of these involve the big thigh muscles including inner thigh muscles (abductors) and tops of my feet and shins. I do not get them in the arches of my feet or my calves like most people do. And sometimes get them in my fingers at the same time and of course my toes. It was brutal and I have had almost no sleep. This happens far too often so it is clearly coming from another cause besides the B6 toxicity. Ugh! Onward and forward! Sunny

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avmcbellar | @avmcbellar | Nov 29, 2020
In reply to @sunnyflower "Yes, thank you. I have discontinued the 50 mg of B6 last week and yet all..." + (show)
@sunnyflower

Yes, thank you. I have discontinued the 50 mg of B6 last week and yet all last night from 11 last night until 11 this morning I was having severe muscle tetany. I finally went to bed about 8 this morning and had a semi-conscious sleep for 3 hours as I continue to work through the muscle tetany trying to stretch it out but nothing worked at all. So it is coming from another source than the B6. I am not a happy gal needless to say we'll get through this as I always do. This is not a rare or isolated incident. It happens far too often. Thank you for sharing, Sunny flower

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Hi @sunnyflower Has it been a week since you stopped the B-6? I would give it longer in case you have built toxicity unless you know it is not in your system. You must get B-6 through food you consume too.

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steeldove | @steeldove | Nov 29, 2020
In reply to @sunnyflower "Hello Hank and thank you for your good information as always. I would not take the..." + (show)
@sunnyflower

Hello Hank and thank you for your good information as always. I would not take the 50 mg of B6 if I were you. The recommended daily requirement is only 2 mg at the most. I have been off the B6 for a week and last night had severe tetany from 11 p.m. until 11 a.m. this morning. I could find no relief. I finally went to bed at 8 this morning and slightly dozed but was fully aware that I was trying to stretch out contractions as they just would not quit. So many of these involve the big thigh muscles including inner thigh muscles (abductors) and tops of my feet and shins. I do not get them in the arches of my feet or my calves like most people do. And sometimes get them in my fingers at the same time and of course my toes. It was brutal and I have had almost no sleep. This happens far too often so it is clearly coming from another cause besides the B6 toxicity. Ugh! Onward and forward! Sunny

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@sunnyflower What causes muscle tetany?
Tetany can be the result of an electrolyte imbalance. Most often, it's a dramatically low calcium level, also known as hypocalcemia. Tetany can also be caused by magnesium deficiency or too little potassium. Having too much acid (acidosis) or too much alkali (alkalosis) in the body can also result in tetany.

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sunnyflower | @sunnyflower | Nov 30, 2020
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@avmcbellar

Hi @sunnyflower Has it been a week since you stopped the B-6? I would give it longer in case you have built toxicity unless you know it is not in your system. You must get B-6 through food you consume too.

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Yes, it has been a week at least. Thanks for asking! Good point. Warmest wishes, Sunny

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sunnyflower | @sunnyflower | Nov 30, 2020
In reply to @steeldove "@sunnyflower What causes muscle tetany? Tetany can be the result of an electrolyte imbalance. Most often,..." + (show)
@steeldove

@sunnyflower What causes muscle tetany?
Tetany can be the result of an electrolyte imbalance. Most often, it's a dramatically low calcium level, also known as hypocalcemia. Tetany can also be caused by magnesium deficiency or too little potassium. Having too much acid (acidosis) or too much alkali (alkalosis) in the body can also result in tetany.

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Hello Steeldove. Yes, all the things you mentioned and more! I'm on top of my electrolytes, etc. daily. It can also be caused by neuropathy! There are many things. Metabolic disorder/s, electrolyte imbalance, abnormal blood chemistries, and even abnormal blood sugars can cause muscle tetany! It can be very complicated! Some medications can be responsible. It's difficult when a patient has so many of those things going on! Thanks for your input! Take care, Sunnyflower

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friendz4 | @friendz4 | Dec 1, 2020

I have neuropathy and my B 6 is always high without supplements I started taking a b complex called desert harvest it is the only b complex with out B6 as high b6 can cause neuropathy I hope this helps you I am a complex case and so many issues going on tried to get to mayo but they are not taking any new patients at this time and I am not having luck in my area with knowledge to help me figure this out

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steeldove | @steeldove | Dec 1, 2020
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@friendz4

I have neuropathy and my B 6 is always high without supplements I started taking a b complex called desert harvest it is the only b complex with out B6 as high b6 can cause neuropathy I hope this helps you I am a complex case and so many issues going on tried to get to mayo but they are not taking any new patients at this time and I am not having luck in my area with knowledge to help me figure this out

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Why all the fuss about B6 when it is water-soluble? Water-soluble vitamins are carried to the body's tissues but are not stored in the body. They are found in many plant and animal foods and in dietary supplements and must be taken in daily. Vitamin C and members of the vitamin B complex are water-soluble.
I had to take high doses of B6 for an extended period of time because of a genetic/health issue unrelated to neuropathy.

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John, Volunteer Mentor | @johnbishop | Dec 1, 2020
In reply to @steeldove "Why all the fuss about B6 when it is water-soluble? Water-soluble vitamins are carried to the..." + (show)
@steeldove

Why all the fuss about B6 when it is water-soluble? Water-soluble vitamins are carried to the body's tissues but are not stored in the body. They are found in many plant and animal foods and in dietary supplements and must be taken in daily. Vitamin C and members of the vitamin B complex are water-soluble.
I had to take high doses of B6 for an extended period of time because of a genetic/health issue unrelated to neuropathy.

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@steeldove, B6 is not like other B vitamins. B6 section it explains -- too much or too little gives neuropathy
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4199287/

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steeldove | @steeldove | Dec 1, 2020
In reply to @johnbishop "@steeldove, B6 is not like other B vitamins. B6 section it explains -- too much or..." + (show)
@johnbishop

@steeldove, B6 is not like other B vitamins. B6 section it explains -- too much or too little gives neuropathy
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4199287/

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@johnbishop Thanks, John. Back in the early 1980s I was hospitalized for what turned out to be a biochemically induced depression. I was fortunate to find a wonderful M.D. who also held a Ph.D. in pharmacology. He prescribed orthomolecular therapy (vitamins and minerals) based on my individual test results. Although I was on elevated levels of many vitamins and minerals, I doubt very much that 35 years later B6 would have caused very sudden onset of neuropathy.

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