I'm high-risk with asthma. How to stay safe with viruses?

Posted by suerc @suerc, Apr 20, 2020

I am very afraid of contracting this virus. I have asthma and high risk. Afraid when this country open. Some are pushing to open and it scares me.

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@lioness

@fiesty76 Woops just made you 77 but removed that. It is hard but there will be a 🌈 coming As long as we can find things to keep us busy 😊 in our home we will be O.K There is a nursing home in Huntington Beach that has the virus now protesters last week ,crazy people.You know what we can do hide things then like Christmas find a present think that may give people a lift 😂. Take care , stay safe 🙏 I'm going to repot today when I find my potting soil ,on the hunt feel better

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@lioness Wellll so glad you corrected the age factor...ahem! Enjoy your adding potting soil to repotting efforts! I hand cut, with small shears, my strip of alley grass/weeds the other day...don't think they will make it through the season so was delighted to read that our local Home Depot will start making home deliveries of $50 ... need to check out the details but "like X-mas" that would be a great gift if they might also include some plants in the delivery.

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@mayofeb2020

@lioness.. Yes, I'm worried too. With temperature going to the 90s this weekend and Orange County is opening the beaches, I suspect they will be packed, I doubt there will be social distancing there. I'm checking the county's statistics, hoping that the virus has slowed down, but with the beaches re-opening, I'm not so sure anymore. My car battery died the other day because I haven't been driving, and my son came to over to restart it, we both wore masks just to be safe. Now I have to remember to take my car for a spin at least once a week.

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@mayofeb2020 I've not been driving but trying to remember to start my car 1/week. Thanks for the reminder...off to do that now. I have a Triple A membership but have no idea if they are making house calls now.

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@feisty76 I am making a plea to everyone I "meet" regarding shopping as things begin to open up. The big box stores will survive - in fact, they have been allowed to stay open through most of the "shut down" and are doing big enough business to actually be hiring in our town.
However, the little guys - the Mom & Pop and small local businesses were largely shut down and they are struggling. Many small garden centers are getting ready to, or have recently, reopened and are hoping that their customers will come back. Please, if there is an possible way, patronize the small businesses as they reopen. Many have put in place "safe shopping" - either with online or phone ordering, and curbside pickup. Some will also offer delivery.
As a person who appeals often to our retailers for donations to support community service projects, I can tell you honestly that the little guys give back to the community much more than the big box stores, whose stock answer is "corporate policy - can't help you." Yes, everyone I'm sure there are exceptions, but the contribution to the community and economy by local businesses, in proportion to their income & profits, is much larger than the nationals. And, if you want choice and variety in the future, you need to support the "little guys" in this crisis, or all that will be left are the giants.
Happy gardening!
Sue

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@fiesty76

@lioness Wellll so glad you corrected the age factor...ahem! Enjoy your adding potting soil to repotting efforts! I hand cut, with small shears, my strip of alley grass/weeds the other day...don't think they will make it through the season so was delighted to read that our local Home Depot will start making home deliveries of $50 ... need to check out the details but "like X-mas" that would be a great gift if they might also include some plants in the delivery.

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@fiesty76 Glad to hear home depot makes deliveries . Everyday when I order from Amazon I get a package like Christmas . We need something to be happy about with this virus ,anything to keep those anxiety,depressive thought away .

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@merpreb

@fiesty76- You've been wonderful on Connect. Very very helpful. And I would like to thank you for this! We all go off on tangents! And it's especially easy to do right now. But our groups have a purpose and we'd like to try and stick with that, otherwise, we will be all over the place. It also helps offers structure, which I think that we all need. I certainly do!

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@merpreb, I appreciate and hear your comments. I tend to get carried away in all I do and participation here is no different. Thank you for your kind diplomacy and yes, I will work harder to comply with the purpose and guidelines set out for the intended benefit of all Connect members. Thank you.

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@merpreb

I didn't mean to open a discussion about dreams, although they are so interesting to explore. This discussion is about I'm high-risk. How to stay safe when things start opening again? What are you considering?

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According to CDC guide lines, people 65+ with pre existing conditions like asthma, should be tested. In other words, your immune system is compromised thus the reason to be tested.
Have you been tested?

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@curiousanne

According to CDC guide lines, people 65+ with pre existing conditions like asthma, should be tested. In other words, your immune system is compromised thus the reason to be tested.
Have you been tested?

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@curiousanne Actually, testing capacity is part of the dilemma we face at this point. The availability of tests in most places is extremely limited, and it will be some months before production will ramp up to the point where everyone who should be tested, or wants to be, will be able to get a test, whether for active virus or antibodies.
The second complication is the number of unreviewed, unproven post-tests that have been tushed to the market. Many have been shown to give dubious results, and a false positive could give a false feeling of security, and cause people to be endangered.
Finally, there is more work to be done to confirm that presence of antibodies confers immunity to further infection.
So for now, the best policy is continued self isolation as possible, infection precautions, and staying as healthy as possible.
Sue

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@merpreb - I don’t know if I ever will safe going out “normal” for months. My husband is thinking the same. Both of us play tennis until everything closed down. Both of us have gotten bad respiratory infections from playing with sick people. The germs stick to the tennis balls. My daughter works every day, under very controlled conditions. My son is furloughed and got his first unemployment check. He does a lot of errands. Not so much now since I started to order food etc online from Walmart. Pickup is easy. They don’t want people out of their cars. I did go for a CT scan this week. In a private place, masks, Purell and all. Anyway, one day at a time. It does bother me that we won’t see my oldest daughter and her kiddies- they live in Sweden.

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@merpreb

I didn't mean to open a discussion about dreams, although they are so interesting to explore. This discussion is about I'm high-risk. How to stay safe when things start opening again? What are you considering?

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Clearly, what we do to stay safe as society emerges from lockdown will vary greatly based on each person’s specific risk factors, situation, resources, and perhaps creativity. We may not be able to do much to change the first three, and we probably can’t completely eliminate all Covid-19 risk (just as we can’t completely eliminate all risk of car accidents, or catching any other disease or malady.) But we CAN certainly think outside the box and share our own ideas and plans here that may work for someone else, perhaps with modification; or may stimulate completely new ideas and strategies for staying healthy and minimizing risk.

In that spirit, I share my plan - simply to stimulate discussion and idea generation, NOT because my plan or ideas are any better than anyone else’s! First, I am at risk because I was on chemotherapy for 11 months for a rare autoimmune disorder which now seems to be under control, at least for now. At about six weeks post-chemo, my white blood cells are now recovered to normal levels, but I have read that it can take 6-9 months post-chemo for one’s T-cells to be back to full strength. So if I’m in a store with someone who is infected with this new CoronaVirus, I’m no more likely to catch the virus than someone else, but if I do catch it, I likely won’t be able to fight it very well, and could have a more severe battle on my hands, very possibly complicated by a relapse of my rare autoimmune disorder. Given that it is rare, no one can tell me how much “at risk” I would be.

So, my plan is to not find out! I.e. to pull out all the stops and do everything I can not to catch the virus in the first place, especially for the next 7 or 8 months while my T-cells are still not back to full strength. This is a two-pronged approach:

A. Reduce exposure risk and
B. Strengthen my Immune system

Starting with the latter, I can make sure I stay on a regular sleep schedule, eat plenty of good healthy food, get moderate exercise and 15 minutes of sun every day. I can read up on what superfoods strengthen the immune system and what lousy foods weaken it (like refined sugar.)
I can use the internet and the remainder of this lockdownperiod to find, and experiment with, more highly-rated healthy recipes. In short, I can use this pandemic and my fear of it as wonderful motivation to do these things and become a healthier and stronger person. In this way I turn my enemy into my ally, my fear into empowerment!

I also have detailed plans for limiting my risk of exposure. I am incredibly fortunate that my husband is not “at risk” and is willing and able to support us on his earnings alone. Thus I can be a non-working spouse or do some work from home. Either way, this allows me to basically stay on lockdown, at least while the world figures out how to do this re-emergence thing right. I can keep ordering groceries online. I don’t “need” to go get my hair or nails done. I can stay in touch with friends and family with FaceTime, Zoom, phone calls and texts. I have a friend who is also at risk and taking as many protective measures as I am. When we are both ready to emerge from our protective little bubbles, she will be the first friend I reconnect with, as we are both at low risk given how careful we’ve been, and we will understand each other’s trepidation at first “re-rentry” in a way our non “at-risk” friends probably will not.

One other unusual strategy that has emerged for me as my husband has been working from home during the lockdown is that I have become a night owl and, (because his company headquarters is in a three-hour earlier time zone) he has become an extreme morning person. We sleep in different bedrooms and at different times of the day. This has allowed him a quiet workspace in the morning and allowed us both more personal space and “breathing room” in a relatively small house. We have agreed to continue this as he returns to his office and his job’s required travel as we think it should help reduce the risk of him bringing home the virus and giving it to me.

He has also agreed to try to be as careful with his own exposure as if HE were the one with the compromised immune system and the incurable rare disease. His co-workers and boss know my situation and so will understand if my husband doesn’t shake hands, takes the stairs instead of a crowded elevator, etc., etc. I think the fact that we were open about what I went through during my chemo and how they kind of went through it with us will help my husband keep me safer, and I hope that his continued visible efforts to distance and sanitize will help them all be a bit more careful and safer as well, which helps keep their loved ones safe in turn. So don’t be afraid to be open about your, or your family’s, “at risk” status. You’ll probably find out just about everyone knows someone at risk for one reason or another, and this could create a great teamwork dynamic where everyone works to get the job done in a way that best protects everybody’s loved ones at home.

Well, this is already waaaay too long! I look forward to hearing other people’s plans and ideas for how to deal with being “at risk” as the country emerges from lockdown.

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@astaingegerdm

@merpreb - I don’t know if I ever will safe going out “normal” for months. My husband is thinking the same. Both of us play tennis until everything closed down. Both of us have gotten bad respiratory infections from playing with sick people. The germs stick to the tennis balls. My daughter works every day, under very controlled conditions. My son is furloughed and got his first unemployment check. He does a lot of errands. Not so much now since I started to order food etc online from Walmart. Pickup is easy. They don’t want people out of their cars. I did go for a CT scan this week. In a private place, masks, Purell and all. Anyway, one day at a time. It does bother me that we won’t see my oldest daughter and her kiddies- they live in Sweden.

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@astaingegerdm- Good morning. I have a son who lives in OR. He works from home. Both his wife and niece worked in a hospital setting before regulations changed. All are healthy. It's tough to be away from family, especially children. My husband is determined not to let anyone pick out his food so he insists on going shopping himself. I assume that we will be very slow in "coming out". Too many decisions have to be made by our Governor who just announced that she will determine the dates and it will be according to age, with older people held in home confinement much longer.

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