Hearing loss and memory

Posted by JK @contentandwell, Oct 21, 2019

I just came across this and found it to be very interesting, and frankly it makes me feel a bit better about my difficulty in remembering things that people say.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/does-hearing-loss-make-it-harder-to-remember-things_b_589a2f19e4b02bbb1816c098
JK

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@imallears

@contentandwell
As @bookysue mentioned, Live Transcribe is only available for Android phones. IPhones have Otter but I found it lacking in so many areas. I’ve known people who purchased a cheap Android just to have Live Transcribe. I have a Samsung version with a good internal mic so it works for that version and up.
I trialed several brands of hearing aids many months ago. I found Starkey to be better for clarity for me but not as powerful as the Phonaks. I asked my Audi to give me the best of both worlds for new hearing aids and ultimately chose Phonaks again. It was a hard decision but I found the starkeys a little weak. I guess it’s what my brain has been accustomed to. If they were cheaper, I might have bought both brands.

FL Mary

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@imallers Since you talked about phones. I have a Android ATT phone and my problem is Google types my message on messanger It make a lot of mistakes . I hate it but don't know how to remove it Have any ideas ? or anyone else I would appreciate it . I never put Google on messenger to type for me but cant get it off . I want my own keyboard again.

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@lioness
On my Android which is a Samsung, I go to settings, general maintenance and there is a language and input option where I can use the default keyboard which is Samsung keyboard or goggle keyboard which I don’t use. See if there is any place under settings that says language and input.

FL Mary

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@imallears

@lioness
On my Android which is a Samsung, I go to settings, general maintenance and there is a language and input option where I can use the default keyboard which is Samsung keyboard or goggle keyboard which I don’t use. See if there is any place under settings that says language and input.

FL Mary

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@imallers O.k. thanks Mary I,ll try that .

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@contentandwell

@lizzy102 I hope you will keep us informed as you undergo the transition to a CI. I think it is something that many of us may have in the future, I suspect I do so I will be very interested in hearing about it first-hand.
When are you having the surgery for this? I sincerely wish it gives you all of the help you are hoping for.
JK

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I meet with the surgeon on December 6. After that will have an MRI etc. I’ll know then the date of surgery. Shall I post it here on this thread? I will be blogging about it as well.

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@joyces

@FL Mary
Actually, I'm not new to hearing loss, just to this degree of it. The Meniere's monster struck big time when I was in my 40s, but only in my right ear. I lost useful hearing as well as balance function in that ear. For four years, I never knew when the horrible vertigo would hit, meaning a few minutes warning before 12-15 hours of vomiting. Back then, there was little knowledge about VRT (vestibular rehab). Docs thought that you couldn't do it while you were having crises. Now, they know that's not correct. My lifetime of playing in ensembles and orchestras came to a crashing halt; for 30 years, I couldn't stand to listen to music because I wasn't hearing what I knew I should hear. I channeled my need to be creative into other activities: intense book design, learning to knit complex Aran patterns, more painting and drawing. I became a moderator for an online discussion group about the disease, which led to designing/editing/publishing three books about vestibular disorders.

As the years went by, I had more and more age-related deafness in my "good" left ear. After a hearing test, the tech said, "You aren't hearing anything in your right ear, and your left isn't so hot, either." My father was profoundly deaf, but we always were able to communicate as we worked together, remodeling houses, fishing, cutting firewood. Mother had no hearing in one ear due to an accident, and she always expected people around her to shape their behavior to her loss. I determined I'd follow Dad's example and place myself in the best place to hear, learn to read lips, etc. Although my hearing continued to deteriorate, I learned to be proactive in placing myself to the right of people, reading lips (now called "speech reading"), guessing at the words I didn't hear. There wasn't distortion or recruitment, so, if I heard sound, I could understand. Over a year ago, I bought an aid for my left ear.

Then May 24 happened, and the Meniere's monster struck again. I had had some signs of problems in my left ear, but nothing serious. In one instant that day, sound went away and distortion and recruitment moved in. One of the very frustrating aspects of Meniere's is that your ability to hear and understand fluctuates from day to day, even hour to hour or minute to minute. Some days, I can hear almost as well as I could before May 24, although the sounds I hear are very distorted. Other days, I can't hear well enough to be bothered by distortion, but recruitment is severe, actually knifes through my skull. I never know how much I'll be able to figure out on any given day. People see me on a good day and think I've gotten much better...and then are amazed when they see me on a really bad day. Even on good days, when I can hear quite a bit, sound is very distorted. I can hear that people are speaking, but only understand a word here and there. The jumble of sound makes it hard to speech read; I think the mess that I hear overrides what I see. Much of the time, I just smile and nod, hoping that some response wasn't expected.

I remain very active. l drive two hours each way to the Portland area to load 400-600 loaves of donated bread every week, even though most of what the people say, either in the warehouse or when I deliver bread to local homeless charities the next day, is a mystery. I'm Curriculum Director for a lecture series, setting up 48 or more lectures per term. Fortunately, much of the organization is via e-mail. Now I always sit in the front row toward the right of the room, with a mic to boost my aid. It's fine as long as the speaker stays near the podium and has a good Powerpoint. I also chair a workgroup about instream water needs for a pilot project that will determine how water is used in Oregon in the future. Workgroup meetings are difficult: lots of technical info. For the November meeting, I rearranged the tables into a smaller area, which helped. I switched to an Android phone because I tried Otter during our last meeting and found that it was close to useless for technical terms. Of course, I didn't know that I'd lose "in the ear" directions while driving with the Android, even though I had researched the various phones. I'm still learning to use this new phone. I had only used a flip phone until recently, when I got an older IPhone to use as a GPS unit for the instream data collection project I set up decades ago and still work for. Biggest challenge is meetings of the entire water group, usually a hundred people or more, often in a difficult setting. I really didn't hear one single understandable sentence during the last four-hour meeting of the larger group. I asked one speaker to send me a copy of her PowerPoint, but she declined. Big loss, as her discussion was about instream needs of fish, etc. (I think!)

I'm beginning to believe that another self-help book is necessary: how to learn to live in a quieter world. If anyone out there would like to contribute, let's do it! I'm more than willing to risk the cost of getting it printed, as I represent a Thai printing firm that prints all-color books inexpensively.

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Please seek another CI evaluation in a few of months. I went to a meeting of CI recipients and the curious, it had a panel discussion and was captioned by a court reporter hired for the session. It was a wonderful experience!
I learned several things:
Because my hearing loss is in the severe/profound range and has been for years, my mind automatically fills in words I do not actually comprehend. In the real world I experience the frustrations you’ve described, am very assertive about moving furniture about, asking repeatedly that there be no cross-talk, asking people to help hands away from their faces, asking that folks look at me and using the paired mic. I am an excellent speech reader and am adept at filling in the blanks - survival skills that do you no good at all in this particular evaluation.
When in the booth, be vigilant to only report words or parts of words you can actually understand - no filling in the blanks. Eg. “SSss—ttt” and “mmm—-t” Also, be sure they use the three voices test - that one killed me, sounded like utter gobbledegook.
I am sure you experienced the typical post-evaluation exhaustion. I discounted the warnings about it and drove home, sat down to check my email and immediately fell asleep in the chair! I have never slept in the daytime unless desperately ill.
This is a evaluation that does not reflect your intelligence, acuity or any other measure of how sharp you are, this is a test on how many parts of words you are actually understandIng out of each sentence. This is an evaluation that it is perfectly okay to fail. You are not a failure, you are not stupid, you simply cannot understand spoken word in the booth without visual cues.

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@lioness

@imallers O.k. thanks Mary I,ll try that .

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@imallers I couldn't find anything on mine its a ATT Alcatel I,ll have to call them and find out how to get it off . Happy Thanksgiving .

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@lioness

@imallers I couldn't find anything on mine its a ATT Alcatel I,ll have to call them and find out how to get it off . Happy Thanksgiving .

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@lioness
Gosh this bugs me
Try Systems under settings
And see if there is a language and Input option.
Every android has a language and Input option

On my way to Orlando as we speak with entire family so good times and carb overload. Just stopped for pizza..why not start early.
Happy Gobble Day to you and all on the Mayo forum

FL Mary

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@imallears

@lioness
Gosh this bugs me
Try Systems under settings
And see if there is a language and Input option.
Every android has a language and Input option

On my way to Orlando as we speak with entire family so good times and carb overload. Just stopped for pizza..why not start early.
Happy Gobble Day to you and all on the Mayo forum

FL Mary

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@imallers Hope you had a good Thanksgiving with your family . I went to my D.I.L. Mothers house the whole family was there we had a good time also. assuming you did too. Still cant get the ap of my phone so letting it talk my words for me its just on messenger . Next week I'm going up to the Att store so will have Marry fix it for me. Thanks I,ll let you know

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@imallears

@joyces
Hi,
Since you are so new to hearing loss, you may be trying too hard . Go easy on yourself and try not to expect too much. I’ve had a progressive loss over 40 years and have had time to adjust. Yeah, it still annoys me that I miss out on so much but...as I will be sitting around the table this Thanksgiving with my entire family...even though I’m not getting everything, I’m so happy to be where I am .

It will take a while for you to come to terms with hearing loss, but realize that you can only do so much. Keep going to the Audi for adjustments and try new assisted devices and hearing apps. (I rely heavily on Live Transcribe for my phone....Android phones only). You’ll learn how you have to plan in advance your approach to people and new situations....even a simple trip to a new doctor.

I don’t have recruitment but understand it and it does make things difficult. Distortion is a killer. Alone time is good but don’t isolate yourself too much...you need to keep your brain active . You have to practice listening to keep as much understanding as you can. You will develop a quick explanation of your loss to explain to others but be upbeat about it if you can.

None of this is your fault but it’s too easy to fall into depression. Keep yourself surrounded by family and good friends and learn when to step away. People gravitate towards positive people.....you can do everything others do expect hear well but don’t let that fact dominate your life even though it impacts everything you do. Read about what other people who have physical challenges have done.

You’ll get there.....not easy...don’t make it a handicap.

FL Mary

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Mary- I think you make some very important points. I especially appreciate your last paragraph here which serves as re-enforcement for what I have already mostly learned. It's good to be reminded! Funny that I think you wrote the word "expect" when I believe you meant ":except".?

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@barbb

Mary- I think you make some very important points. I especially appreciate your last paragraph here which serves as re-enforcement for what I have already mostly learned. It's good to be reminded! Funny that I think you wrote the word "expect" when I believe you meant ":except".?

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@barbb
Oh yeah....except hear well....you should read my typing on a phone..or dictating...

FL Mary

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